<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18-02-2015 18:49, Reindl Harald wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:54E4FACC.6090804@thelounge.net" type="cite"> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed; font-size: 12px;" lang="x-unicode">that won't change the fact that if *anybody* comes to the idea to take an interface which *is up* down for rename it should get removed any commit permissions instantaneously because he don't care about *a ton* of implications depending on the local environment doing so </div> </blockquote> First of all, I'm not a systemd dev. Nor want to be. Secondly, I believe you didn't really understood my proposition. You are talking about userspace *after* initramfs and *after* systemd is initialized and renamed (or not) any interface. Of course systemd should *never* mess with an interface *after* system initialization. But it can do anything *right after* the initramfs hand the control to systemd. Of course except if the interface is up for a nfsroot. In this case the renaming shouldn't happen. But this is an exception. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini </body> </html>