Sorry for asking this but is it possible to use Tango icons in commercial projects (commercial CMS for example) and in what conditions ? <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:36 PM, <<a href="mailto:tango-artists-request@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists-request@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send Tango-artists mailing list submissions to        <a href="mailto:tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit        <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/tango-artists" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/tango-artists</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to        <a href="mailto:tango-artists-request@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists-request@lists.freedesktop.org</a> You can reach the person managing the list at        <a href="mailto:tango-artists-owner@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists-owner@lists.freedesktop.org</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tango-artists digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Diary icon (Philip Withnall)   2. Re: Tango icon for Phatch (Cube)   3. Re: Diary icon (Cube)   4. [Fwd: Ekiga desperately needs a few icons] (Andreas Nilsson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:01:33 +0100 From: Philip Withnall <<a href="mailto:philip.withnall@gmail.com">philip.withnall@gmail.com</a>> Subject: [Tango-artists] Diary icon To: <a href="mailto:tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org</a> Message-ID: <1211353293.6834.3.camel@KWA-PHILIP-LINUX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Having recently released version 0.2 of my diary editor, I was wondering if anyone would mind making an icon for it? I don't have any specific ideas in mind, although the addition of something on the icon to show that the diary can be encrypted might be an idea. Thanks, Philip Withnall [1]: <a href="http://tecnocode.co.uk/projects/diary/" target="_blank">http://tecnocode.co.uk/projects/diary/</a> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/tango-artists/attachments/20080521/9f2cfd37/attachment-0001.pgp" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/tango-artists/attachments/20080521/9f2cfd37/attachment-0001.pgp</a> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:33:42 +0200 From: "Cube" <<a href="mailto:cube@szypulka.com">cube@szypulka.com</a>> Subject: Re: [Tango-artists] Tango icon for Phatch To: "'Stani Michiels'" <<a href="http://spe.stani.be" target="_blank">spe.stani.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>>,        <<a href="mailto:tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> Message-ID: <000d01c8bb3e$e7ddac10$b7990430$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8" Hello Stani, I'll forward this message to the Tango mailing list, I hope this is O.K. Yours, Jakub. MSN: <a href="mailto:kubasz@yahoo.com">kubasz@yahoo.com</a> ICQ: 264595412 AIM: aimcube Skype: cube_s Yahoo!IM: kubasz Xfire: cubibubi GTalk: <a href="mailto:cubibubi@googlemail.com">cubibubi@googlemail.com</a> GaduGadu: 11945489 IRC: (Freenode) ``Cube ? Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Stani Michiels [mailto:<a href="mailto:spe.stani.be@gmail.com">spe.stani.be@gmail.com</a>] Sent: Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 23:09 To: Cube Subject: RE: Tango icon for Phatch Op dinsdag 20-05-2008 om 22:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cube: > Ah, whatever, take GPL & CC-by. Thanks! So please in the mails with which you'll send me icons, mention you dual-license them for me as GPL and CC-by. > > Igor = ? I've emailed him already. I don't want to rush this as this is very delicate for me. I feel a bit bad that I will quit his work. I really hope that you'll be able to make all necessary icons for Phatch. If necessary, I know other members of the Tango team are also interested. If I go to the tango page, I can see again who they are: - Hylke Bons - Kalle Persson - Andreas Nilsson So I hope we can go for a very nice Phatch 0.2 release. Today I have been working on the new backend in order to interface Phatch with other graphic programs such as imagemagick (that has so many possiblities), gimp (but maybe I want to wait for pygegl), uniconvertor, blender, ... First I need to get the architecture ready. This is a huge task. Afterwards I will start with imagemagick. This should be for sure in 0.2, the rest I will see how time permits. Best, Stani > > Yours, Jakub. > > MSN: <a href="mailto:kubasz@yahoo.com">kubasz@yahoo.com</a> > ICQ: 264595412 > AIM: aimcube > > Skype: cube_s > Yahoo!IM: kubasz > Xfire: cubibubi > > GTalk: <a href="mailto:cubibubi@googlemail.com">cubibubi@googlemail.com</a> > GaduGadu: 11945489 > IRC: (Freenode) ``Cube > > ? Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stani Michiels [mailto:<a href="mailto:spe.stani.be@gmail.com">spe.stani.be@gmail.com</a>] > Sent: Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 22:41 > To: Cube > Subject: RE: Tango icon for Phatch > > Op dinsdag 20-05-2008 om 21:59 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cube: > > Oh, sorry for double-mailing, > No problem ;-) > > but i'd prefer by-sa, because then you have in the license that you must share it with a comparable license. > This would mean I can only relicense my (parts of) my software under the > GPL or the CC by-sa license. Unfortunately this is not useful for me. I > can only accept dual licensed GPL & CC-by artwork. > I hope this is not a problem for you. > > Stani > > > > Yours, Jakub. > > > > MSN: <a href="mailto:kubasz@yahoo.com">kubasz@yahoo.com</a> > > ICQ: 264595412 > > AIM: aimcube > > > > Skype: cube_s > > Yahoo!IM: kubasz > > Xfire: cubibubi > > > > GTalk: <a href="mailto:cubibubi@googlemail.com">cubibubi@googlemail.com</a> > > GaduGadu: 11945489 > > IRC: (Freenode) ``Cube > > > > ? Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stani Michiels [mailto:<a href="mailto:spe.stani.be@gmail.com">spe.stani.be@gmail.com</a>] > > Sent: Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 15:54 > > To: Cube > > Subject: RE: Tango icon for Phatch > > > > No, not at all. I want to able to embed the icons in gpl code and I want > > to be able myself (not others) to republish that code in another license > > as the gpl, which won't be public domain. What would be enough for me is > > that you dual license the icons with: > > - gpl > > - Creative Commons Attribution (by) > > Does this makes sense? > > Stani > > > > Op dinsdag 20-05-2008 om 15:34 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cube: > > > So basically you want me to create all the icons, make them GPL but allow anyone else to take them and change the license to Public Domain? > > > > > > Yours, Jakub. > > > > > > MSN: <a href="mailto:kubasz@yahoo.com">kubasz@yahoo.com</a> > > > ICQ: 264595412 > > > AIM: aimcube > > > > > > Skype: cube_s > > > Yahoo!IM: kubasz > > > Xfire: cubibubi > > > > > > GTalk: <a href="mailto:cubibubi@googlemail.com">cubibubi@googlemail.com</a> > > > GaduGadu: 11945489 > > > IRC: (Freenode) ``Cube > > > > > > ? Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Stani Michiels [mailto:<a href="mailto:spe.stani.be@gmail.com">spe.stani.be@gmail.com</a>] > > > Sent: Dienstag, 20. Mai 2008 14:55 > > > To: Cube > > > Subject: RE: Tango icon for Phatch > > > > > > Op dinsdag 20-05-2008 om 14:30 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cube: > > > > Hey Stani, > > > > > > > > perhaps I expressed myself a bit wrong, I'll change them, but the metaphor stays. > > > Ok > > > > > > > > You're right with everything else you wrote, but I actually don't want them to be public domain. Did Igor release them as public domain? > > > Igor gave me the right to publish them under any license I want, > > > including public domain. Most artwork of Phatch is embedded in the > > > source code so that for example actions, which are plugins, can be > > > limited to just one file. As you can see for yourself I add a copyright > > > notice of the icon author in every source file of the action and I > > > specify it as well in the COPYING section. Moreover I include all source > > > svg's in the tarball, in which the metadata mentions the license and the > > > author. Finally in the Help>About dialog box, I also mention all > > > designers. So don't worry about credits, you'll get plenty. ?Tell me > > > which license you prefer. I just need it is compatible with the facts > > > that: > > > - I can embed the icons in source files > > > - These source files will always be available under the GPL, but I have > > > the right to republish them under any other license > > > > > > Stani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours, Jakub. > > > > > > > > MSN: <a href="mailto:kubasz@yahoo.com">kubasz@yahoo.com</a> > > > > ICQ: 264595412 > > > > AIM: aimcube > > > > > > > > Skype: cube_s > > > > Yahoo!IM: kubasz > > > > Xfire: cubibubi > > > > > > > > GTalk: <a href="mailto:cubibubi@googlemail.com">cubibubi@googlemail.com</a> > > > > GaduGadu: 11945489 > > > > IRC: (Freenode) ``Cube > > > > > > > > ? Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Stani Michiels [mailto:<a href="mailto:spe.stani.be@gmail.com">spe.stani.be@gmail.com</a>] > > > > Sent: Montag, 19. Mai 2008 23:34 > > > > To: Jakub Szypulka > > > > Subject: Re: Tango icon for Phatch > > > > > > > > Op maandag 19-05-2008 om 21:05 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jakub > > > > Szypulka: > > > > > Yep, alright, I'll wait. > > > > > > > > > > I'm used to not really change the icons but "tangofy" them a bit, so the > > > > > general idea stays. > > > > I think we should look how the other existing tango icons look like and > > > > design all in the same style. For example Igor (current designer) has > > > > all the icons in a 3d axonometry. If all other tango icons are flat than > > > > it would probably be better to have them all flat. > > > > > > > > > > Sure I'd be interested in contributing to PiTiVi! I'd just need the > > > > > usual stuff: Icon names and sizes. > > > > Great. I've put a proposal I want to work on the Pitivi wiki. I am still > > > > waiting for approval: > > > > <a href="http://www.pitivi.org/wiki/FrameSeekingSeeking" target="_blank">http://www.pitivi.org/wiki/FrameSeekingSeeking</a> > > > > > > > > Do you know by any chance someone who is good with creating custom GTK > > > > controls so as for the jog control in the wiki page above? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I must say the Live preview instead of icons idea sounds really great, I > > > > > could even imagine having the preview to the right (instead of current > > > > > icon position), text in the middle and an icon to the right! What do you > > > > > think? > > > > Haha, you seem to have the courage to go for all the icons. About your > > > > proposal, well it depends. If I go for the rhythmbox interface, you > > > > would get three columns instead of one now: > > > > category | program | action > > > > > > > > category is: colours, border, transform ... > > > > program is: PIL, Imagemagick, Gimp, Blender ... > > > > action is: scale, round corners, ... > > > > > > > > I think you get the idea: compared to music ... category replaces genre, > > > > program replaces artist and action replaces album/song. So it would eat > > > > too much space to use both an icon and a preview. The preview could > > > > however be a roll-over effect. > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to license the icons as public domain so they can > > > > be part of the openclipart library? > > > > > > > > Stani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jakub > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 21:00 +0200, Stani Michiels wrote: > > > > > > Op maandag 19-05-2008 om 20:09 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jakub > > > > > > Szypulka: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need a lot more icons for the actions inside Phatch. Also right now I > > > > > > > > will work on Phatch 0.2 which will need probably some changes in the > > > > > > > > interface and some extra art work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I'd be really interested in creating all icons in Tango. > > > > > > That would be awesome. > > > > > > > Although > > > > > > > Phatch has some unique icons (like many "Action" icons, which it would > > > > > > > be a pleasure to create), there are already many icons created by other > > > > > > > Tango artists and I think it would be a better idea to simply take them. > > > > > > Of course, I don't want you to recreate icons which exists already. This > > > > > > could distribute the workload. Also some other tango icon designers > > > > > > showed interest as well, but haven't contacted me so far and I don't > > > > > > know their names. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So to answer your question, if you only plan to replace the Phatch icon, > > > > > > > > I am not so interested. If you would be willing to work on the artwork > > > > > > > > of Phatch as a whole which involves many more icons, it is a different > > > > > > > > story. In that case I could contact you later when I know better what > > > > > > > > you need. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's important for me to know which sizes you need, as I need to create > > > > > > > every icon e.g. four times if you need four sizes (that doesn't mean I > > > > > > > don't want many sizes, it's just that I need to know what you need so > > > > > > > that I don't work for nothing). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, what I'd need right now, is what icons you need and which sizes > > > > > > > each. > > > > > > Well in the current version of Phatch, I only need the action icons as > > > > > > 48x48 and as svg. But don't start working on it yet. There are two > > > > > > issues: > > > > > > - first I want to talk to Igor, who is the current icon designer but has > > > > > > a lack of time. I really value every contributions and I want to handle > > > > > > this in a nice way. How much you would change his icons? Just the > > > > > > colours a bit? > > > > > > - second: as I said things will change in Phatch 0.2. For example there > > > > > > will be many more actions as it will expose (some) actions based on > > > > > > imagemagick, Gimp and others... So I probably want to organise the > > > > > > actions in an rhytmbox like interface where the graphic programs are the > > > > > > rockstars ;-) Because I was afraid that there would be too many actions > > > > > > to create icons for, I was considering replacing icons with a preview > > > > > > image of a fixed source image. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I need to have this clear before you start working. I hope you > > > > > > understand. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you also be interested in contributing icons for pitivi? As there > > > > > > are no icons for video editing (eg frame seeking). Right now music > > > > > > players icons are used and that is problematic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > > > > Stani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:35:14 +0200 From: "Cube" <<a href="mailto:cube@szypulka.com">cube@szypulka.com</a>> Subject: Re: [Tango-artists] Diary icon To: <<a href="mailto:philip@tecnocode.co.uk">philip@tecnocode.co.uk</a>>,   <<a href="mailto:tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> Message-ID: <000e01c8bb3f$1e4b3c40$5ae1b4c0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="utf-8" Hey Philip, if no one else is interested, I can give it a try! Yours, Jakub. MSN: <a href="mailto:kubasz@yahoo.com">kubasz@yahoo.com</a> ICQ: 264595412 AIM: aimcube Skype: cube_s Yahoo!IM: kubasz Xfire: cubibubi GTalk: <a href="mailto:cubibubi@googlemail.com">cubibubi@googlemail.com</a> GaduGadu: 11945489 IRC: (Freenode) ``Cube ? Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: <a href="mailto:tango-artists-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:tango-artists-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org</a>] On Behalf Of Philip Withnall Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 09:02 To: <a href="mailto:tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org</a> Subject: [Tango-artists] Diary icon Hi, Having recently released version 0.2 of my diary editor, I was wondering if anyone would mind making an icon for it? I don't have any specific ideas in mind, although the addition of something on the icon to show that the diary can be encrypted might be an idea. Thanks, Philip Withnall [1]: <a href="http://tecnocode.co.uk/projects/diary/" target="_blank">http://tecnocode.co.uk/projects/diary/</a> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:36:15 +0200 From: Andreas Nilsson <<a href="mailto:nisses.mail@home.se">nisses.mail@home.se</a>> Subject: [Tango-artists] [Fwd: Ekiga desperately needs a few icons] To: Tango-Mailingliste <<a href="mailto:tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org">tango-artists@lists.freedesktop.org</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:4834335F.9020601@home.se">4834335F.9020601@home.se</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Forwarding to tango-artists. - Andreas -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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