Thank you for the comments, guys. It would be nice if there were support for other protocols. But, you are right, the demand is not quite there yet. Who knows, maybe in a few years people will drop there current IM protocol of choice in favour of Jabber. However, people are usually pretty dedicated to their favorite IM. I am really new to telepathy and tubes. After all, I just installed Empathy 2 days ago. So, if anyone has some real good code examples or links to examples/tutorials/projects (other than what's on the telepathy wiki), please share. Thanks, Neil <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Jiri Baum <<a href="mailto:jiri@baum.com.au">jiri@baum.com.au</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi, Will: <div class="Ih2E3d">> Even if this had been done, the person at the other end would have to > use a client that supports tubes, which (at present — other IM > implementations could in principle implement tubes) means the Telepathy > stack. So you both have to be using a Telepathy client (aka. Empathy, at > this point) anyway, and then you may as well use an open, extensible > protocol. </div>I wouldn't be quite so dismissive of running tubes over MSN or other protocols - there are situations where there would be good reasons to do so, most obviously where existing contacts are on MSN (as in the original query). I suspect the real reason they aren't supported yet would be that while there aren't any applications actually using tubes, there isn't much priority to implement them in the back-ends. This is, of course, a chicken-and-egg problem. However, as far as writing an application is concerned, telepathy tubes are already useful even with the single combination of protocol, variant and desktop that is now supported (depening on what kind of tube you want); hopefully, once real telepathy tube applications start getting use, the priority of supporting them will rise and the gap will be quickly filled. Jiri -- Jiri Baum <<a href="mailto:jiri@baum.com.au">jiri@baum.com.au</a>> <a href="http://www.baum.com.au/%7Ejiri" target="_blank">http://www.baum.com.au/~jiri</a> </blockquote></div>