<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">cat</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zixon65@gmail.com">zixon65@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: 2011/5/6<br>
Subject: Re: client side decorations<br>To: Kristian Høgsberg <<a href="mailto:krh@bitplanet.net">krh@bitplanet.net</a>><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">2011/5/6 Kristian Høgsberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:krh@bitplanet.net" target="_blank">krh@bitplanet.net</a>></span><br>
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<div><div></div><div>On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:14 PM, cat <<a href="mailto:zixon65@gmail.com" target="_blank">zixon65@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> "Window management policy" should also be client-side. I may not have been<br>
>> clear about that. The wayland compositer almost NEVER moves or raises or<br>
>> resizes a window. Clients do this in response to clicks or whatever. This<br>
>> would have made it TRIVIAL to implement Gimp the way they intended, as at no<br>
>> time would an image window raise above their toolbars, since they control<br>
>> both of them.<br>
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> I wouldn't use wayland if thats the case, the kind of security risk this<br>
> creates is massive. you could have clients that refuse to cooerate and<br>
> always take up the entire screen, or worse, rendering your computer useless.<br>
> also I never like muti window apps like the gimp, or openoffice. they draw<br>
> your attention away from what your doing to rearrange these little windows,<br>
> and what ever you do don't close them or would could spend the next hour<br>
> trying to get them back. there sould always be central system for making<br>
> windows behave or they won't<br>
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</div></div>I don't know what window system you're currently using, but if you're<br>
using X, hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace now, because it has all the same<br>
problems.<br></blockquote><div> </div></div></div><div>that key combination has been disabled in Xorg by default for a while, which is extreamly annoying because X runs rather well without a config. also a new problem is that programs that lock up like to take focus and the only way to recover then is the magic sysrq keys. really I have just gone back to using the power button. atleast that still cut off power after 4 seconds.<br>
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And you should go read my reply to Peng, because it applies to you too.<br></blockquote></div><div>I like some of the suggestions that have been put forward. but Bill made sound as though wayland clients should do everything by themselves. why then use the compositor? <br>
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Kristian<br>
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