The problem with this is this huge workaround talk we have right now. If we use server side decorations, this whole talk is useless, and as said before, the client could still do any modification to the decoration it wants (with the few wanted restrictions of course). ----- Reply message ----- Von: "Bill Spitzak" <spitzak@gmail.com> Datum: So., Mai. 8, 2011 18:49 Betreff: Antw.: client side decorations An: "andre.knispel@gmx.de" <andre.knispel@gmx.de> Cc: <wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org> Certainly there should be an easy way to get the "default window decorations". I think the correct way is for the client to call an client-side "appearance library" that can draw these, tell the client about the sizes, and also can draw all the buttons and scroll bars and so on. On May 8, 2011, at 9:27 AM, andre.knispel@gmx.de wrote: > Of course it is server side decoration, but it eliminates its main > problem. > > ----- Reply message ----- > Von: "Bill Spitzak" <spitzak@gmail.com> > Datum: So., Mai. 8, 2011 18:18 > Betreff: Antw.: client side decorations > An: "andre.knispel@gmx.de" <andre.knispel@gmx.de> > Cc: <wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org> > > > > On May 8, 2011, at 8:25 AM, andre.knispel@gmx.de wrote: > > > As far as I can tell, the main problem with server side decoration > > is that applications cannot modify them and thus they create their > > own decoration. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > So why can't we enforce the WM to provide an API for modifying the > > decorations? If a WM wouldn't implement it, we'd use some default > > decoration for applications that need to use the API. Chrome could > > for example get a surface to draw its tabs from KWin, and KWin > would > ensure the tabs don't overlap with the buttons, etc. > > I hope this wasn't proposed in the thousands of CSD posts before ;) > > No. What you are describing *IS* server-side decorations. I fully > agree with the majority here that client-side is the way to go. > > > > _______________________________________________ > wayland-devel mailing list > wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel</a>