<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 March 2013 19:10, Scott Moreau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oreaus@gmail.com" target="_blank">oreaus@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Daniel Stone <<a href="mailto:daniel@fooishbar.org">daniel@fooishbar.org</a>> wrote:<br>> I definitely don't see it that way, and without being able to speak for<br>
> Kristian, I daresay he doesn't either. There's a big gap between not<br>
> wanting to start a competitor to GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment, XFCE, LXDE and<br>
> the myriad other environments, and adding titlebar buttons to XWayland. The<br>
> example clients shipped with Weston have titlebar buttons, so I think it's<br>
> fairly safe to say that a) extending the same support to X11 clients is a<br>
> useful goal, and b) including titlebar buttons is clearly not a non-goal for<br>
> Weston.<br><br>
</div></div>Yea, these are seemingly basic features - titlebar buttons and<br>
resizing top/left fixed. However I think X will be around for a long<br>
time and xwayland should get a lot more attention. It's been<br>
barely-unusable for far too long now.</blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I totally agree, despite being one of the people responsible for its current horrific state.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Also, reviewing my own code<br>
thinking about everything Kristian has told me, he doesn't want these<br>
hacky patches at all. I'm pretty sure the code horribly far less than<br>
acceptable. Anyone is welcome to grab patches from gh and discuss them<br>
or apply them wherever. I myself am not going to waste my time and<br>
effort as I have done for the past several months, trying to get even<br>
the simplest things pushed upstream. So even if these patches were<br>
acceptable, I don't have plans to put forth a large amount of effort<br>
to see them upstream. If you want the code, great. It's FOSS, grab it.<br>
The general point here is, I don't really plan on going to be making<br>
special time to bug upstream anymore because my efforts so far have<br>
been shunned, shot down, trolled and ultimately,<br>
less-than-appreciated. It's been a year, now I've had enough of the<br>
nonsense.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>OK, I guess it's no longer Wayland/Weston then (in which case the repo & IRC channel names are pretty misleading - if you don't plan on submitting anything, it's hard to see how it could be 'next'). Shame, but oh well. Next time I get some time to poke at XWayland I'll try to dig through your fork and try to work out which patches are relevant, and hope I don't miss any patches.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Best of luck with it.</div><div style><br></div><div style>Cheers,</div><div style>Daniel</div></div></div></div>