<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.26.0"> </HEAD> <BODY> On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 06:26 +0200, Vincent Torri wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <TT>having an old system forbid a dev to install autoconf ? Install a recent </TT> <TT>version of autoconf in /usr/local, be sure that /usr/local/bin in before </TT> <TT>/usr/bin in PATH and that's all. It takes around 5 minutes, maybe less</TT> </BLOCKQUOTE> I don't know if you realize the scope of the impact. Anyone who builds xorg (developers, distro builders), which now requires libX11 as of the upcoming 1.4, will need to install a package that is not provided through the distro. That means it does not show up in the package management system (synaptics yum or whatever) and does not receive upgrades. This is completely unacceptable to build software. Of course, this is not an issue for developers. You might argue, as I once did, that they should only use the tarball and not re-create the configuration. The reality is that all (I think) distros apply patches (say adding translation) and need to re-create the configuration (as I have seen in a Debian log). I may not do a good job of explaining the situation, as I am not a distro builder. Through various comments and posts on the list, I have come to appreciate  the challenges they face. Gaetan </BODY> </HTML>