PATCH: Menu Spec - Categories
fcrozat at mandriva.com
Mon Sep 25 14:31:53 EEST 2006
Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 à 13:17 -0700, Bastian, Waldo a écrit :
> >Le jeudi 07 septembre 2006 à 18:30 -0700, Bastian, Waldo a écrit :
> >> The menu spec currently makes some weak recommendations with regard to
> >> how categories are to be used. The reality however is that for an
> >> application to show up in the application menu it must either define its
> >> own submenu or use a category out of a small defined set. The menu spec
> >> doesn't make clear what that set is although it does provide some hints
> >> in the right direction. What is also missing is a requirement that
> >> desktop environments must continue to support this core set of
> >> categories. Failure to do so would result in applications no longer
> >> showing up in the menu which clearly can't be the intention.
> >> The above situation is compounded by the fact that Gnome based
> >> implementations only place "Unallocated" entries in its menu if these
> >> entries list the "Application" category. The menu spec does not mention
> >> "Application" as category. We can either ignore this and effectively
> >> killing the "OnlyUnallocated" fallback, or add to the spec that all
> >> desktop files should include "Application" as category.
> >I'm sorry I can't participate more in this discussion (I'm too busy
> >finishing our Mandriva 2007.0 release, I should have more time in about
> >two weeks) but you might want to have a look at one document I wrote for
> >our transition to full "XDG" menu for Mandriva Linux 2007.0 where we
> >discovered "missing" categories, compared with our earlier menu
> >structure :
> It shouldn't be a problem to add some additional secondary categories to the spec.
I'd like to propose the following additional categories to the spec :
Compression => Archiving isn't verbose enough for utilities like ark or
Fax => Fax management software don't fall into Telephony current
description (Telephony via PC)
Chat => IRCClient is a little too much specific, an alias called Chat
should be added, or IRCClient description should be much broad.
VideoConference : currently, Telephony is only for VoIP, so videoconf
applications don't belong in Telephony (or we could improve Telephony
description to include VideoConference apps)
Printing (or Printer) => HardwareSettings might be a little too crowed
and there are a lot of printer tools which can justify adding this
Documentation (or Help) : self explanatory :)
FileTools : FileManager is too specific for various random file tools
(like getting file space usage, etc..)
TextTools: tools to manipulate text file, such as dictionary, etc..
a bunch of Sciences subcategories :
ArtificialIntelligence, ComputerScience, DataVisualization, Electricity,
GeoSciences (well, this one might be covered by Geology..),
ImageProcessing, NumericalAnalysis (could be covered by Math),
a bunch of Education subcategories :
Economy, Geography, History, Literature, Sport
We are also missing a category for telephony stuff but not related to
VoIP, but instead for applications managing phone systems, dialing a
number, using a terminal emulator, etc.. I haven't figured a nice
caterogy name for that, sorry ;)
> >Another thing which is missing in the current spec is some kind of
> >two-pass for category matching : there is no way to specify some
> >categories have more priority than other. For instance, as a vendor, we
> >might want to move some entries to another category (so we add our own
> >vendor category) but keep fdo category matching (maybe in another
> >location in the menu tree). With current category matching, menu entry
> >will be duplicated.
> There is two-pass (and exactly two) category matching. You can use the <OnlyUnallocated> tag to do the matching in the second pass. Note that that tag must be a child of the <Menu> tag, it's not a matching predicate.
Unfortunately, OnlyUnallocated isn't flexible enough to be really useful
for something else than "trash bin where we store anything we couldn't
> >Another missing thing is a way to add a preference for category or
> >layout matching based on ShowOnlyIn, allowing us to ship one menu
> >description file with different menu order and matching for GNOME and
> >KDE (favoring GNOME applications when running GNOME, KDE apps when using
> I'm working on a patch to allow desktop specific applications.menu files as currently used by Kubuntu and others.
I'm not sure it will solve exactly what I was writing about and
moreover, it will add file duplication. But we will see.
Frederic Crozat <fcrozat at mandriva.com>
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