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rhkramer at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 05:17:20 PDT 2008
On Friday 18 April 2008 12:55 am, you wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 09:57 -0400, Randy Kramer wrote:
> > The reason(s) I suggest philosophy include:
> Philosophy is the secular counterpart to theology.
> It hardly seems appropriate for tools relating to
> contemplation of the Spirit, and in any case it would
> only be appropriate for certain sorts of application.
Quoting some other definitions of philosophy, this time from kdict (Webster
1913)--see the 2nd note:
1. Literally, the love of, inducing the search after, wisdom;
in actual usage, the knowledge of phenomena as explained
by, and resolved into, causes and reasons, powers and
Note: When applied to any particular department of knowledge,
philosophy denotes the general laws or principles under
which all the subordinate phenomena or facts relating
to that subject are comprehended. Thus philosophy, when
applied to God and the divine government, is called
theology; when applied to material objects, it is
called physics; when it treats of man, it is called
anthropology and psychology, with which are connected
logic and ethics; when it treats of the necessary
conceptions and relations by which philosophy is
possible, it is called metaphysics.
Note: "Philosophy has been defined: -- the science of things
divine and human, and the causes in which they are
contained; -- the science of effects by their causes;
-- the science of sufficient reasons; -- the science of
things possible, inasmuch as they are possible; -- the
science of things evidently deduced from first
principles; -- the science of truths sensible and
abstract; -- the application of reason to its
legitimate objects; -- the science of the relations of
all knowledge to the necessary ends of human reason; --
the science of the original form of the ego, or mental
self; -- the science of science; -- the science of the
absolute; -- the science of the absolute indifference
of the ideal and real." --Sir W. Hamilton.
> One would not find (for example) a bible-themed game
> for small children under Philosophy. Nor a program
> that issued a call for prayer at dawn. I suppose
> that a "Ritual" category could exist alongside
> "Philosophy", and another for "Ministry", but what
> Ritual (religious practice) and Ministry (spreading a
> religion or faith) have in common is a belief in
> something spiritual, in contradistinction to philosophy,
> which describes and studies from outside.
Ahh, OK, I hadn't been thinking about programs to aid with Ritual or
Ministry--I was thinking more of things like [Bible | Koran | ... ] study.
Hmm, ritual and ministry might almost be utilities (or use utilities, things
like a PIM or sales management tool. Maybe religion does have to be split
into multiple categories--an education / (old style) philosophy related one
for study and then something else for ritual and ministry.
> Hope this helps...
Sure, it makes me more confused (but aware of some other issues) ;-)
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