<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)">  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> The problem is that in the current state of affairs, just including ScreenSaver will have it show up properly in Gnome, but not in KDE. My intention is not to forbid things, but to describe what must be done so that things will work properly. One option is to make ScreenSaver a main category with a note that recommends the inclusion of “X-KDE-ScreenSaver” as well, KDE must of course be willing to (continue to) support that in KDE4 then.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Waldo Bastian<o:p></o:p> Linux Client Architect - Client Linux Foundation Technology<o:p></o:p> Channel Platform Solutions Group<o:p></o:p> Intel Corporation - <a href="http://www.intel.com/opensourcego/linux">http://www.intel.com/opensource</a><o:p></o:p> OSDL DTL Tech Board Chairman<o:p></o:p> </div> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </div> From: william.jon.mccann@gmail.com [mailto:william.jon.mccann@gmail.com] On Behalf Of William Jon McCann Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:50 PM To: Bastian, Waldo Cc: xdg@freedesktop.org Subject: Re: PATCH: Menu Spec - Categories<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Hi Waldo,<o:p></o:p> <div> On 9/7/06, Bastian, Waldo <<a href="mailto:waldo.bastian@intel.com" target="_blank"> waldo.bastian@intel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p> I have made a patch for the Appendix A of the menu spec that clarifies what desktop entries can expect in terms of supported categories and what desktop environments must support. I will also attach a HTML version of the new Appendix for your convenience in a followup mail. <o:p></o:p> </div> In GNOME we install desktop files for programs that provide screensaver functionality with "Categories=GNOME;Screensaver;" [1].  We then install a menu that includes all Screensaver category programs [2].  This menu is not used by the gnome-panel menus [3] but by the screensaver framework to look up programs.  There is some precedent for this type of thing.  For example, even when "main applications menus" don't show items from the Settings category they have been used by various control panel shells  [4]. This seemed to have been allowed by the previous versions of the spec.  However, in this patch you have added:  "Additional Categories should always be used in combination with one of the Main Categories." That said, it seems to me that your changes are worthwhile.  So, what should we do?  Are you trying to explicitly forbid this type of usage?  Or can we interpret this, as written, as a strong recommendation but not a requirement?  Can we promote Screensaver to a main category similar to Settings? I think that this usage is worthwhile for its potential as a desktop neutral way for third parties to define screensaver modes. Thanks, Jon [1] <a href="http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/gnome-screensaver/savers/footlogo-floaters.desktop.in.in?rev=1.3" target="_blank">http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/gnome-screensaver/savers/footlogo-floaters.desktop.in.in?rev=1.3</a> [2] <a href="http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/gnome-screensaver/data/gnome-screensavers.menu.in?rev=1.2" target="_blank">http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/gnome-screensaver/data/gnome-screensavers.menu.in?rev=1.2</a> [3] <a href="http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-menus/layout/" target="_blank">http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-menus/layout/</a> [4] <a href="http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-control-center/control-center/control-center-categories.c?rev=1.12&view=markup" target="_blank">http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-control-center/control-center/control-center-categories.c?rev=1.12&view=markup </a>      <a href="http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/slab/control-center/src/control-center.c?rev=1.1&view=markup" target="_blank">http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/slab/control-center/src/control-center.c?rev=1.1&view=markup </a><o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </body> </html>