2007/6/11, Jos van den Oever <<a href="mailto:jvdoever@gmail.com">jvdoever@gmail.com</a>>:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
2007/6/11, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <<a href="mailto:mikkel.kamstrup@gmail.com">mikkel.kamstrup@gmail.com</a>>:<br>> 2007/6/10, Jos van den Oever <<a href="mailto:jvdoever@gmail.com">jvdoever@gmail.com</a>>:
<br>><br>> > 2007/6/10, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <<a href="mailto:mikkel.kamstrup@gmail.com">mikkel.kamstrup@gmail.com</a>>:<br>> > > Hi Xesames and xdg subscribers,<br>> > ><br>> > > Our project creation request[1] has been stalled for almost four months
<br>> now.<br>> > > I really don't think we can keep on abusing the xdg list anymore, and as<br>> it<br>> > > appears we are not going to get a <a href="mailto:xesam@freedesktop.org">xesam@freedesktop.org
</a> list I think we<br>> have<br>> > > to move our business elsewhere if something doesn't happen really soon<br>> (like<br>> > > in the coming week).<br>> > ><br>> > > We have multiple other needs like a shared version control system, a
<br>> > > website, a wiki, and a bug tracker.<br>> > ><br>> > > I have bought <a href="http://xesam.org">http://xesam.org</a> and we can have hosting there as well.<br>> > > Whether or not we will actually use
<a href="http://xesam.org">xesam.org</a> as the host or just as a<br>> link<br>> > > is open for discussion. Google groups have grown popular recently and<br>> > > Canonicals Launchpad is not a bad product either.
<br>> > ><br>> > > I don't know if this should be reflected in our namespacing. We have<br>> dbus<br>> > > paths and xml namespaces to think about. I would not like to point an<br>> xml
<br>> > > namespace at some place where we cannot put something, on the other hand<br>> I<br>> > > would hate to strip the org.freedesktop from our dbus paths, I would<br>> hate it<br>> > > even more if we used intermixed namespacing of
<a href="http://xesam.org">xesam.org</a> and<br>> > > <a href="http://xesam.freedesktop.org">xesam.freedesktop.org</a>.<br>> > ><br>> > > Anyways, comments welcome. A swift resultion of bug 10114 is even more
<br>> > > welcome.<br>> ><br>> > I really think we should escalate this. fd.o is the place for this<br>> > stuff. If they are so *** lame, somebody should have his butt kicked.<br>> > How hard is it to set up a mailinglist + svn?
<br>><br>> Let's not make this a shouting contest :-)<br>><br>> I don't think that anyone find it hard to create the new project, but just<br>> that everyone is tied on all fronts. That just doesn't cut it for the
<br>> various related projects that have started to block on this of course. We<br>> need a resolution, and we need it fast.<br>><br>> Maybe we can keep everything in <a href="http://xesam.freedesktop.org">xesam.freedesktop.org
</a> namespace and just use<br>> <a href="http://xesam.org">xesam.org</a> for hosting right now. It would be required that all http queries<br>> on <a href="http://xesam.freedesktoo.org">xesam.freedesktoo.org</a> was forwarded to
<a href="http://xesam.org">xesam.org</a>, but that is probably<br>> just as time-consuming as creating the xesam project in the first place...<br><br>If we can get a DNS entry that points xesam.fd.o to x.o, we're done
<br>too. Then we're our own boss, but profit from the fd.o namespace.</blockquote><div><br>Given the response time of the fdo administration, I actually think this is the preferred solution.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Mikkel<br>
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