<div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/13 Aurélien Gâteau <<a href="mailto:aurelien.gateau@canonical.com">aurelien.gateau@canonical.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > On 06/13/2009 02:18 PM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: >> Brian J. Tarricone wrote: >>> 1. Passive vs. active notifications. I recall that notify-osd >>> unilaterally decided that the 'actions' bit of the spec was Bad[tm] and >>> that notifications should be entirely passive and not accept input. >> I would rather not start a discussion on this subject: it has been >> debated to death and people won't change their mind. > > That's rather closed-minded. But I suppose if Canonical wants to go > their own way and ignore community consensus, it's free to do so. </div>What I wanted to say is that I read a lot of discussions on that issue and I learned nothing positive ever come out of those, so I'd rather talk about icons, markup and other things instead. The spec says actions are optional and I don't think Canonical wants to have this changed. (Also note that I have personally nothing to do with the choice to go action-less, I was not even working for Canonical at the time of this decision) </blockquote></div> A little bit of background on this. The intent originally was to make it optional so that a daemon could intercept the messages and log to console or to a log file, which wouldn't allow for feedback. The original notification-daemon was actually built this way, to be able to be used in a graphical or console manner. We intended for all graphical implementations to support actions. The spec does not explicitly say this, which is an oversight. At the time there was just libnotify and notification-daemon, so it didn't really matter. notification-daemon was considered the reference implementation that provided the minimum amount of functionality a daemon should implement. If I thought we'd face an issue down the road where actions would be removed from all apps in a distro and the new notification-daemon replacement would not support them, I would have made this *VERY* clear in the spec from the beginning. I think it's harmful to do this. Christian -- Christian Hammond - <a href="mailto:chipx86@chipx86.com">chipx86@chipx86.com</a> Review Board - <a href="http://www.review-board.org">http://www.review-board.org</a> VMware, Inc. - <a href="http://www.vmware.com">http://www.vmware.com</a>