<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Julien Danjou <<a href="mailto:julien@danjou.info">julien@danjou.info</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">At 1246007841 time_t, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > i agree. that's why i started a git repo and working out the details. i > communicated that a few times on this mailing list over the past few months as > well. you can find a link to the git repo both earlier in this thread as well > as at the end of this email.. > > there are 5 personal repository clones of it on <a href="http://gitorious.org" target="_blank">gitorious.org</a> at this point. </div>The thing is that starting to spread things over the internet on gitorious, github, git.whatever is really a PITA for people trying to implement spec (as me) to find where they're all. That's why I prefer to use a centralized service so I know that « it's on fd.o, of course. ». For the record, even if it's a little topic, I had no idea until I read this thread why the notification specs where hosted on Galago. So I've started to implement this, believing it was a Freedesktop standard (i.e., one that was a consensus between all majors desktops), and now I realize that I got fooled.</blockquote><div> It originally was hosted on <a href="http://freedesktop.org">freedesktop.org</a>. A drive failure caused us to lose our repository and I believe much of our bug tracker, or something. It's been a while.. but that's why it's hosted off-site. I didn't trust <a href="http://freedesktop.org">freedesktop.org</a> to host it after losing all that data. So I know there's been a lot of negative opinions about the Galago project and our handling of the spec, but I want to state for the record that at the time, there was no attempt at a cross-desktop notification standard that went anywhere, and we did try hard to provide one that people were mostly in agreement with. You can never satisfy everyone, but we did incorporate what we could that people were asking for, tried to work with people, and had buy-in from most. There was no official spec approval process at the time at <a href="http://freedesktop.org">freedesktop.org</a>, but we did make a real attempt here. Given how many distros shipped it, how many apps used it and how many implementations were out there, I was under the opinion that we did some good here, but perhaps not. So I'm sorry to everyone who's pissed at us for "screwing everyone over" as I believe someone else in this thread put it. Be sure that our intent was not to screw anyone over but to provide a good standard that could work as a basis for notifications. Sure, it's not perfect, but show me any spec that got everything right the first time. When we wrote this, there was little to base this on and really this is the first time in many years that I've seen *anybody* complain about this. Maybe people were upset and didn't tell me, which is a shame because I would have been glad to work with people to do things about this. However, the way this discussion has gone, and with the interesting view of the history of our project, I've really lost all desire to continue any work on notifications. So I wish everyone the best of luck in coming up with a new spec that 100% satisfies everybody involved. Christian</div></div> -- Christian Hammond - <a href="mailto:chipx86@chipx86.com">chipx86@chipx86.com</a> Review Board - <a href="http://www.review-board.org">http://www.review-board.org</a> VMware, Inc. - <a href="http://www.vmware.com">http://www.vmware.com</a>