<div dir="ltr">This is not the right list. You want to email <a href="mailto:systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org">systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org</a>. freedesktop simply hosts infrastructure for systemd. The "xdg" list is involved with creating cross-desktop standards, not with all software the freedesktop infrastructure hosts. </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Dominique Michel <<a href="mailto:dominique.michel@vtxnet.ch" target="_blank">dominique.michel@vtxnet.ch</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Recently, I experimented with Debian sid, which installed systemd. Systemd idea is nice, but its implementation is a catastrophe. It is more than one year I am using the kernel cgroups on gentoo to get rt scheduling with JACK, that without any trouble. <a href="http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/Cgroups" target="_blank">http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/Cgroups</a> On that Debian system, this was just impossible, because whatever I try, systemd insisted to put what it think is good to have into the rt cgroup, which soon or later resulted in a complete system freeze with even dead magic keys. After loosing my time a few days with this, I removed Debian and installed gentoo instead. I found the reason here: <a href="http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1063354" target="_blank">http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1063354</a> "Lennart Poettering: Well, this feature is... completely irrelevant for normal desktop people. ... In fact, I just prepped a patch to systemd to move every service and every user session into its own cgroup in the 'cpu' hierarchy (in addition to the group it already creates in the 'systemd' hierarchy)." What terrify me in that story is the total lack of consideration for the needs of who the chief developer of systemd strongly suggest are abnormal desktop users. More, this systemd patch is more than 3 years old now, and I found that freedesktop is involved in that mess: <a href="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ControlGroupInterface/" target="_blank">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ControlGroupInterface/</a> So, that imply, if I am right with my diagnostic, the next question is what can be done to solve that issue? Best Regards, Dominique _______________________________________________ xdg mailing list <a href="mailto:xdg@lists.freedesktop.org">xdg@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg</a> </blockquote></div> -- Jasper </div>