[Xesam] [nepomuk-kde] positive feedback about NEPOMUK & KDE 4.4 - and KOffice has RDF
leo.sauermann at dfki.de
Tue Mar 16 11:11:49 PDT 2010
(I keep posting to all lists, as this is probably relevant to all of us)
Your background information on the work that Ben Martin has been doing
together with you at KO GmbH is highly relevant. I just looked at the
excellent blog post and Video at Ben's blog and can recommend this to
everyone involved in RDF and NEPOMUK:
"The ODF document format lets you store RDF/XML data inside the document
"you can send somebody a single file containing exact information about
real world events. ... For example, for a given contact you might know
his phone number, home page, normal business location, email address etc."
"Of course, you can drag and drop items from the RDF docker into
kaddressbook and korganizer. These pieces of information should be able
to be moved into and out of an ODF file using KOffice without thinking
about it.You want to add Fred to the text, pick him up from your
kaddressbook and drop him into the RDF docker. Your default contact
stylesheet is then used to insert some text into the document at the
current cursor location showing you the Fred contact. Quick and
simple... Lets make RDF something everybody uses but nobody needs to
learn about (unless they want to). "
... this sounds like Timbl's fancy dreams turning into reality.
this is excellent and if the work from Ben and KOffice and NEPOMUK would
somehow come together, I see that we could get most of the RDF from
NEPOMUK into the documents and back from the documents into NEPOMUK.
I am seeing the rdfs:seeAlso links as most most most important thing in
the light of ODF. For example I also talked with Professor Dr. Philipp
Slusallek from DFKI who works on the XML3D standard - its embedding 3D
scenegraphs into a HTML DOM tree and there is a pimped firefox rendering
the 3D. Of course, they use RDFa and rdfs:seeAlso links to point to the
real-world counterparts of objects you see in the scenegraph
It was Jos van den Oever who said at the right time 14.03.2010 19:50 the
> 2010/3/9 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann at dfki.de>:
>> I also met people from KOffice, Inge Wallin from KO GmbH, see here:
>> Jos, you know these guys (they say).
>> Inge showed me some RDF-based annotation features in KOffice and I get
>> the impression that he understood very well what it means to embed RDF
>> metadata in Text documents - he mentioned some serious business cases
>> and that they got funding to go ahead with them (I don't know how much
>> is public, so I rather remain vague here).
> Yes, I do, I work for KO GmbH, mainly on KOffice. Currently we are
> adding initial RDF support to KOffice. For this we followed the draft
> 1.2 specification of ODF. This work is sponsored by NLNet. Most of the
> work has been done by Ben Martin. This project is now running out and
> we will write a final report on what is in there within a month.
> With initial support we mean that loading and saving is supported and
> initial annotation and display support. Being able to add RDF in ODF
> documents in the xml serialization is big boon. It allows one to add
> any data in a semantic way in the documents.
> Since KOffice libraries can be used in 3rd party applications like the
> Nokia office viewer, RDF support for ODF files opens up the way to
> write specialized applications or koffice plugins for writing text
> documents that make adding semantic annotation for specific fields
> easy. As Inge observed, there many use cases for this.
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