<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> about freedesktop.org and bugzilla/trac.... It was Evgeny Egorochkin who said at the right time 05.06.2009 18:35 the following words: <blockquote cite="mid:200906051935.23522.phreedom.stdin@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> </pre> freedesktop is a problem. We've got a bugzilla product at FDO, but we don't <pre wrap="">really have any control over it. It appears we can't import or export anything. Also FDO is very well known for taking a lot of time to process even trivial requests(such as adding a project). You can forget about infrastructure requests. So if we use FDO, we're stuck with a small set of software some of which is out of sync with reality(CVS) and to which we don't have a full access(such as for import/export). On the other hand we have semanticdesktop.org, sf.net and xesam.org </pre> </blockquote> we established oscaf.sf.net in februaray to let anyone willing to work on ontologies join there. I find bugzilla too complex for the task at hand and I like the tight integration of SVN + WIKI + Tickets in TRAC. so: freedesktop.org : * endlessly complex loopholes to get an account (sending a gpg key to a gpg server, creating an ssh key, creating a user account for bugtracker to create a bug to .... ???) * bugzilla * git sf.net: * everyone has an account, if not it takes 1 minute to make one, only complexity is remembering your name and password * trac * svn personally, I am much more in favor of sf.net because its the platform i also used for aperture and other projects I am member of. I also like TRAC and SVN as we use it a lot. Also we basically know how ontology management with SVN+TRAC works based on the experience in dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org But I thought since all the others are freedesktop.org and git fans, we must use that. If the question is up to discussion, I much more favor sourceforge+trac+svn. we can reuse the oscaf.sf.net project there or make a new one if you don't like the name, then suggest a better one and sign us up. Setting this up is piss-easy, as you all probably know from past sf.net experience. performance may suck from time to time, but so be it, they do a good job otherwise. I would not "vote" about this, I would rather like to have an agreement where everyone understands the problems and personal background and preferences of all parties involved, and then come to a conclusion that fits our small group best. best Leo <blockquote cite="mid:200906051935.23522.phreedom.stdin@gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> FDO is nice as an idea, but the implementation is far from it. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">curious to learn the itnerna there, best Leo </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- ____________________________________________________ DI Leo Sauermann <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122 P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +49 631 20575-116 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102 Germany Mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@dfki.de">leo.sauermann@dfki.de</a> Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 ____________________________________________________ </pre> </body> </html>