<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi, Stefan Decker is a busy person, he won't react to every mail you send to his address. (actually, this is the reason why he usually does not answer emails, because so many people do send him) We agreed with him to move the domain and server into the oscaf ownership, which I will help doing now. both domains are of interest and both are in his hands: * semanticdesktop.org * oscaf.org Giving shell accounts to those machines to masses of people does not help, so I wonder who exactly needs an account. Once I have root to the machines, I can see what we do, I am still in the process of doing that (and a lot of other things...) about GIT: we need an apache server we can tweak until it does what we need. We must host the ontologeis on semanticdesktop.org and up until now, we also have a big community website there, which is a bit dormant. i see no reason to use gitorious to host ontologies and standardization namespaces, that would be dangerous. I would rather do it as we have done in the last three years, we use a cronjob to copy the latest-from-trunk <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/repos/trunk/ontologies-public/">https://dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org/repos/trunk/ontologies-public/</a> to here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/">http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/</a> that has the advantage to have a nice SVN for working, and a stable HTTP server for hosting. If the subversion breaks, it does not drag down the hosting with it. best Leo It was Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen who said at the right time 11.06.2009 07:19 the following words: <blockquote cite="mid:9961daf10906102219r2cbfb1b8ke437079f8f1c7c57@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">2009/6/10 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mikkel.kamstrup@gmail.com"><mikkel.kamstrup@gmail.com></a>: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">2009/6/10 Sebastian Trüg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:strueg@mandriva.com"><strueg@mandriva.com></a>: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Tuesday 09 June 2009 20:59:28 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">As I was the one to take the "fight" with us getting Xesam up on feedesktop.org back in the days, I should probably say something about this... I don't think we should use the FDO infrastructure because of three things: 1) High barrier to entry for non-experts, 2) Extremely slow response time from sysadmins, 3) Very little flexibility. So we need a system that is the opposite of these three points. I think a combination of SF + an external we-own-it shell+web server is what we need. So what I propose: SF:   svn   trac Own server (under xesam.org or oscaf.org, I am indifferent where we mount it): Moin wiki   SSH shell server   Web server with public compiled ontologies (and possibly other stuff) Then there is the mailing list... I really don't care much here. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">This sounds perfect to me. I would even suggest to use <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a> instead of xesam.org since that is the namespace of the ontologies anyway. + the tools are already in place there. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">Sounds sane - who owns semanticdesktop.org? Whois says Stefan Decker of deri.org... Is it a hosting solution where we can create shell accounts for the involved maintainers? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> For those of you not following <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xdg@freedesktop.org">xdg@freedesktop.org</a> - Aaron Seigo is trying to rally people to use gitorious.org for spec hosting... Maybe we should proactive and support his idea? Aaron says: "...today i moved the embryonic git repository for xdg specifications to gitorious.org: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://gitorious.org/xdg-specs/">http://gitorious.org/xdg-specs/</a> it is owned by a team called "xdg-specs<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://gitorious.org/+xdg-specs">" http://gitorious.org/+xdg-specs "</a> A git repo is easy to move if we ever want that. </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- ____________________________________________________ DI Leo Sauermann <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122 P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +49 631 20575-116 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102 Germany Mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@dfki.de">leo.sauermann@dfki.de</a> Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. 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