<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> ok, so we agree. still - use N3 and do two files, trig sucks. best Leo< It was Sebastian Trüg who said at the right time 26.06.2009 19:54 the following words: <blockquote cite="mid:200906261954.39206.strueg@mandriva.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Friday 26 June 2009 18:08:52 Leo Sauermann wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">If possible, it would be good if you could look into the currenty ANT scripts that do the whole business of generating the HTML files and converting the ontologies. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I will try. Never used ant before but I will manage. :) </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">The current layout is not because we like chaos, but because our current set of ANT scripts works with that setup and it was too hard to change the script (it was easier to just put all ontologies into the same folder and then tweak the ant script) </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> sure. I know how this works. Stuff grows. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">In general, I do not like the smell of release/draft folders, but I think its ok. I think each ontology should be in its own folder and some readme.txt should show the status, but its also fine the way with superfolders. but </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I thought about that, too. But a folder structure seems cleaner to me. You can get all stable ones by simply checking out that folder. It is also simpler for release scripts, not to mention a human trying to understand the structure. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">we should not try to classify them further using folder strucutres, this will end up in sucking, rather use the wiki to guide people around. The W3C way is something like ...2009/06/ndo-draft .... then ...2006/08/ndo-draft ... then ...tr/ndo </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> I doubt we need this. The year is not really interesting IMHO, it is in the svn metadata anyway. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">we should use SVN tags to mark releases and otherwise keep the files always in the same folder, its much more convenient, but also here I am open for ideas. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> yes, svn tags for releases. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">about TRIG: (I would like N3, see below) this is fine, we stopped using protégé for ontology development some time ago, because as we are doing a standardization process, the SVN logs are very very very important to verify what chnages have been done, and a visual ontology editor sometimes reformats the whole file, which makes it impossible to verify what has been changed by whom and why, so I am in favor for TRIG and text files. Could someone write this down on our OntologyMaintenance page? there is only one problem - there is a lack of online tools [1] for checking/validating/converting trig, this sucks. For the sake of keeping a sane mind, and being quick while hacking, I would propose to use N3 instead because there is more tool support for it. [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://rdfabout.com/demo/validator/index.xpd">http://rdfabout.com/demo/validator/index.xpd</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mindswap.org/2002/rdfconvert/">http://www.mindswap.org/2002/rdfconvert/</a> -> these tools, which I daily use when cheking ontologies, do not support trig. Trig=bad n3=good </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> hm, but wouldn't that again mean to have two files: the data graph and the metadata graph? I also wanted to avoid that. The other possibility would be to auto-generate the metadata from the release date and maybe the last svn change, the svn commiters and a metadata file. Cheers, Sebastian _______________________________________________ Xesam mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Xesam@lists.freedesktop.org">Xesam@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xesam">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xesam</a> </pre> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- ____________________________________________________ DI Leo Sauermann <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122 P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +49 631 20575-116 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102 Germany Mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@dfki.de">leo.sauermann@dfki.de</a> Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 ____________________________________________________ </pre> </body> </html>