<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1479" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Rodolfo,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>R<SPAN class=250334819-14022005>egarding this comment:</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> ---</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005> </SPAN>"state" attribute of <target> element is used to qualify a translation. This is intended to aid project managers decide when to add a translation to a TM database. Look at the predefined values in <A href="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/documents/xliff-specification.htm#state">http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/documents/xliff-specification.htm#state</A> and you will understand what I mean.<BR><BR>IMO, the "approved" attribute of <trans-unit> is better suited to reflect if an entry needs translation or not. If a segment needs translation, simply mark it as non approved. Once the translator has reviewed the segment, he can mark it as approved.<SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>---</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>How about if instead of the "approved" attribute we use the "translated" attribute?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The following excerpt is from the XLIFF 1.1. specification:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>---</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005>The required <CODE><A href="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/documents/xliff-specification.htm#id">id</A></CODE> attribute is used to identify the <CODE><trans-unit></CODE> within the file. The optional <CODE><A href="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/documents/xliff-specification.htm#approved">approved</A></CODE> attribute indicates whether the translation has been approved by a reviewer. The optional <CODE><A href="http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xliff/documents/xliff-specification.htm#translate">translate</A></CODE> attribute indicates whether the <CODE><trans-unit></CODE> is to be translated.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>---</FONT> </SPAN><BR><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I I understand it right, the actual transition of the approved attribute from approved="no" to approved="yes" seems to be reserved for a second person, who reviews the translation of the translator who makes the transition from translated="no" to translated="yes". Obviously, if the translation project is not to be reviewed by a second person, the translator can directly approve his own translations as a shortcut.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Still I think there must be some way to indicate that it is a fuzzy match at file generation time from a filter's point if view, and possibly some logical initial values for the state and state-qualifier could make sense, even if the editor of choice overrides them immediately after that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>To summarize:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In the case of a fuzzy in the PO file:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>translated="no"</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>approved="no"</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>state="needs-translation"</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>state-qualifier="fuzzy-match"</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In the case of a translated item in the PO file:</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>translated="yes"</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>approved="no"</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>state="needs-review-translation"</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>state-qualifier="exact-match"</FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005></SPAN><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Josep.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=250334819-14022005>  <P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Josep Condal</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Managing Director</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>ApSIC S.L.</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>---</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Caballero, 76 4-3</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>08029 Barcelona</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Spain</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>T: +34 93 405 11 00</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>F: +34 93 430 81 77</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>@: pcondal@apsic.com</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>--- </FONT></P></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>