Hi folks,<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/5/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Bruno Haible</b> <<a href="mailto:bruno@clisp.org">bruno@clisp.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
F Wolff wrote:<br>> I'd like to discuss the section on the fuzzy flag, 5.6.1<br><br>Me too. The "Guide", section 5.6.1., wants a <target> element with attribute<br>approved="no". But this is IMO not the right thing:
<br>The XLIFF specification says "approved" indicates<br> "whether a translation is final or has passed its final review".<br>So this is meant to apply to a translation team that has a two-phase<br>translation process: initial translation and review. Now, in a PO file,
<br>fuzzies are put by msgmerge, and often are not even remotely related to<br>the <source> string. So in these cases, both the initial translation<br>and the review have to be performed, not just the review. The right way
<br>to express this in XLIFF is through an <alt-trans> element. No?</blockquote><div><br>I think it is somewhat useful to note that the fuzzy flag is really being used widely for two purposes:<br>1) In msgmerge, to indicate that a fuzzy match has taken place
<br>2) In the translation process, to indicate that the message needs some form of review or further translation.<br><br>When dealing with msgmerge-based fuzzies, I think it makes perfect sense to use a alt-trans element, especially with the added "#| " directive, which can then map directly to the <source> in the alt-trans, as Bruno described earlier:
<br><br> #, fuzzy<br> #| msgid "too many arguments"<br> msgid "too few arguments"<br> msgstr "trop d'arguments"<br><br> <trans-unit ...><br> <source xml:lang="en">too few arguments</source>
<br> <alt-trans xml:space="preserve" ...><br> <source xml:lang="en">too many arguments</source><br> <target xml:lang="fr">trop d'arguments</target>
<br> </alt-trans><br> </trans-unit><br><br>However, when dealing with the second form of fuzzy-usage, the approved-attribute could be used. Both options are perfectly valid in terms of the intended use, and could be implemented as options in the xliff-converter tools?
<br><br>cheers,<br>asgeir<br></div></div><br>-- <br>Asgeir Frimannsson<br>PhD Candidate<br>School of Software Engineering and Data Communications<br>Queensland University of Technology<br>126 Margaret Street, Level 3<br>Brisbane QLD 4001, Australia
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