[Bug 2545] System Freezes when using Xorg 6.8 + i915 on kernel
2.6.8 or higher
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------- Additional Comments From marcusvini at hotmail.com 2005-02-17 04:33 -------
the log for i915/xorg6.8
X Window System Version 6.8.2
Release Date: 9 February 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.10-gentoo-r7 i686 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux soinf030 2.6.10-gentoo-r7 #5 SMP Wed Feb 16
13:01:43 BRST 2005 i686
Build Date: 11 February 2005
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Feb 17 09:51:02 2005
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) | |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/share/fonts/misc/,/usr/share/fonts/TTF/,/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,/usr/share/fonts/CID/,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/modules"
(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
X.Org Video Driver: 0.7
X.Org XInput driver : 0.4
X.Org Server Extension : 0.2
X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
Using vt 7
(--) using VT number 7
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,2560 card 1028,013d rev 01 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 8086,2562 card 1028,013d rev 01 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 8086,244e card 0000,0000 rev 81 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:1f:0: chip 8086,24c0 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:1f:1: chip 8086,24cb card 1028,013d rev 01 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:3: chip 8086,24c3 card 1028,013d rev 01 class 0c,05,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1f:5: chip 8086,24c5 card 1028,013d rev 01 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:04:0: chip 14e4,4212 card 1028,0001 rev 02 class 07,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:05:0: chip 10ec,8139 card 13e0,0001 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0006 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x0000c800 - 0x0000c8ff (0x100) IX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x0000cc00 - 0x0000ccff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0xec000000 - 0xec0fffff (0x100000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel Corp. 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset Integrated
Graphics Device rev 1, Mem @ 0xe0000000/27, 0xec100000/19
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) PCI Memory resource overlap reduced 0xe8000000 from 0xebffffff to 0xe7ffffff
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xec001000 - 0xec0010ff (0x100) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0xec000000 - 0xec000fff (0x1000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0xec182000 - 0xec1820ff (0x100) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0xec181000 - 0xec1811ff (0x200) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x10000000 - 0x100003ff (0x400) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[6] -1 0 0xec100000 - 0xec17ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[7] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c00f (0x10) IX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e43f (0x40) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[12] -1 0 0x00000500 - 0x0000051f (0x20) IX[B]
[13] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
[0] -1 0 0xec001000 - 0xec0010ff (0x100) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0xec000000 - 0xec000fff (0x1000) MX[B]
[2] -1 0 0xec182000 - 0xec1820ff (0x100) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0xec181000 - 0xec1811ff (0x200) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x10000000 - 0x100003ff (0x400) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[6] -1 0 0xec100000 - 0xec17ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[7] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[8] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c00f (0x10) IX[B]
[10] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e43f (0x40) IX[B]
[11] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[12] -1 0 0x00000500 - 0x0000051f (0x20) IX[B]
[13] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x0fffffff (0xff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x0fffffff (0xff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xec001000 - 0xec0010ff (0x100) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0xec000000 - 0xec000fff (0x1000) MX[B]
[7] -1 0 0xec182000 - 0xec1820ff (0x100) MX[B]
[8] -1 0 0xec181000 - 0xec1811ff (0x200) MX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x10000000 - 0x100003ff (0x400) MX[B]
[10] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[11] -1 0 0xec100000 - 0xec17ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[12] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[13] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[16] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c00f (0x10) IX[B]
[17] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e43f (0x40) IX[B]
[18] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[19] -1 0 0x00000500 - 0x0000051f (0x20) IX[B]
[20] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B]
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module "drm"
(II) LoadModule: "drm"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading sub module "GLcore"
(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "xtrap"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/extensions/libxtrap.a
(II) Module xtrap: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
(II) Loading extension DEC-XTRAP
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so
(II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 2.1.0
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
(II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.2
Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) Loading font CID
(II) LoadModule: "i810"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o
(II) Module i810: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.3.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.o
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4
(II) I810: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100,
i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:02:0
(--) Chipset 845G found
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x0fffffff (0xff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xec001000 - 0xec0010ff (0x100) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0xec000000 - 0xec000fff (0x1000) MX[B]
[7] -1 0 0xec182000 - 0xec1820ff (0x100) MX[B]
[8] -1 0 0xec181000 - 0xec1811ff (0x200) MX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x10000000 - 0x100003ff (0x400) MX[B]
[10] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[11] -1 0 0xec100000 - 0xec17ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[12] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[13] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[14] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[15] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[16] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c00f (0x10) IX[B]
[17] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e43f (0x40) IX[B]
[18] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[19] -1 0 0x00000500 - 0x0000051f (0x20) IX[B]
[20] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B]
(II) resource ranges after probing:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x0fffffff (0xff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0xec001000 - 0xec0010ff (0x100) MX[B]
[6] -1 0 0xec000000 - 0xec000fff (0x1000) MX[B]
[7] -1 0 0xec182000 - 0xec1820ff (0x100) MX[B]
[8] -1 0 0xec181000 - 0xec1811ff (0x200) MX[B]
[9] -1 0 0x10000000 - 0x100003ff (0x400) MX[B]
[10] -1 0 0xe8000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x0) MX[B]O
[11] -1 0 0xec100000 - 0xec17ffff (0x80000) MX[B](B)
[12] -1 0 0xe0000000 - 0xe7ffffff (0x8000000) MX[B](B)
[13] 0 0 0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B]
[14] 0 0 0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B]
[15] 0 0 0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B]
[16] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[17] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
[18] -1 0 0x0000c400 - 0x0000c4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[19] -1 0 0x0000c000 - 0x0000c00f (0x10) IX[B]
[20] -1 0 0x0000e400 - 0x0000e43f (0x40) IX[B]
[21] -1 0 0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[22] -1 0 0x00000500 - 0x0000051f (0x20) IX[B]
[23] -1 0 0x0000f000 - 0x0000f00f (0x10) IX[B]
[24] 0 0 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]
[25] 0 0 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a
(II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) Loading sub module "vbe"
(II) LoadModule: "vbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/libvbe.a
(II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
(II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(==) I810(0): Depth 16, (==) framebuffer bpp 16
(==) I810(0): RGB weight 565
(==) I810(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(**) I810(0): Option "DRI" "True"
(**) I810(0): Option "PageFlip" "True"
(**) I810(0): Option "DisplayInfo" "False"
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Reloading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a
(II) I810(0): initializing int10
(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
(II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 832 kB
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Brookdale-G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Brookdale-G Graphics Controller
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0
(II) I810(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 845G
(--) I810(0): Chipset: "845G"
(--) I810(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE0000000
(--) I810(0): IO registers at addr 0xEC100000
(II) I810(0): 1 display pipe available.
(II) I810(0): detected 892 kB stolen memory.
(II) I810(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 206844 kB available
(II) I810(0): Will attempt to tell the BIOS that there is 12288 kB VideoRAM
(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f11 not supported.
(II) I810(0): Before: SWF1 is 0x00000101
(II) I810(0): After: SWF1 is 0x00000108
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Reloading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a
(II) I810(0): initializing int10
(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
(II) I810(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
(II) I810(0): VESA BIOS detected
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 8000 kB
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM: Brookdale-G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Brookdale-G Graphics Controller
(II) I810(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0
(II) I810(0): BIOS now sees 8000 kB VideoRAM
(--) I810(0): Pre-allocated VideoRAM: 892 kByte
(==) I810(0): VideoRAM: 32768 kByte
(==) I810(0): video overlay key set to 0x83e
(**) I810(0): page flipping enabled
(==) I810(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(II) I810(0): BIOS Build: 2607
(==) I810(0): Device Presence: disabled.
(**) I810(0): Display Info: disabled.
and everything stops here. I have to hardreset the cpu to make it work again,
keyboard dont respond to ctrl+alt+backspace/delete or whatsoever
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