[Clipart] [Bug 3974] Interface improvements
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------- Additional Comments From jonadab at bright.net 2005-08-18 18:26 -------
> I tried to stay out of this talk (about the look of buttons) because I
> know we have plenty of people each of them perfectly able to draw good
> buttons and each of them with his own vision (resulting a high flamewar
My instincts tell me that these buttons are not going to be a flamewar. A
bikeshed, maybe, but not a flamewar. So far most of what we've said about them
we've agreed on, and what we're looking at in the most recent mockups is a
combination of more than one person's work. But we need another artist's eye.
> the simple submit form on the front page is the *only* one I use for
> uploading images, I don't like the other one (probably because I find
> it unintuitive, with the most important field, "Browse", at the bottom
> instead at the top)
If the other form is unintuitive, then it needs to be fixed. I think I already
knew that, vaguely, in the back of my head, but this confirms it. (That, *in
itself*, is not an argument for getting rid of the one on the front page, but
either way, an unintuitive form is one we should revise. We can spin that off
to the other bug, though, for now.)
> Nathan Eady == Jonadab, right??? Confuse me why don't you ; )
Sorry, yes, at work I use my real-world name; whereas, from home I use the
username I picked up in college. (Long story short, there were too many people
named Nathan (roughly, three per hall in the guys' dorms), so it was either go
by my last name all the time or get a monicker; I got one, and it stuck.)
> this is my chance to get the most offtopic bugzilla comment ever
Around the time of the 1.0 release, b.m.o. had some *extremely* off-topic
bugzilla comments, notably in certain "bugs" that were off-topic in the first
place or just plain in-jokes, and then the comments went off-topic even for the
bug's topic. All of which is neither here nor there...
> > Would you be content removing the submit form from the front page if
> > the other one was reworked a bit?
> Don't know, let see the reworked version first.
Hmmm... Actually, yeah, being just one page, that can probably be reworked
before we are ready to move on this holistic redesign anyway.
> IIRC, when we created the actual layout I asked what is the main target
> of the site: end-users or contributors and we considered both as targets,
> but the project was new and we needed contributors. Now, one year later
> it may be or may be not the time to change the focus.
I'm pretty sure we still want both users and contributors, but the question is
more about finding a balance that works as well as possible for as many people
as possible, balancing how it works for users against how it works for the
contributors and developers.
> How about when things look good, post to the list the mockup, plan, etc.
> It is hard to keep track of everything on here and at that point will bring
> more ppl. into the fold. What do you all think?
We're approaching that point, I think. The list software doesn't like
attachments (probably for good reasons), but I can always throw mockups up on
the web someplace and put URIs in a list message. Yeah, I'll do that, when I
think we've gotten as far as we can without it, which will probably be pretty
soon now. We've made quite good progress already. There really are just a few
points left to go over and clear up...
Going back to Bryce's four things that the site needs to answer...
> * Understand what the project is about and just how much clipart there is
> * Search/browse for clip art
> * Upload their own clip art
> * Feel welcome to get more deeply involved
Number one is the main blurb. Currently, it mostly covers what the project is
about, and does not tell how much clipart there is. However, we could easily
enough add wording to it to cover that point. On the other hand, the release
announcment, just below, can be expected to cover this point. Is that enough,
or should this information be more prominent?
Number two appears in three places in the current mockup: at the top of the
sidebar, in the main "what the project is about" blurb, and with the buttons
(although there's not a search button, so search is only covered twice; still, I
think that's enough).
Numbers three and four both have links in the sidebar, and also in the main
"what the project is about blurb". We're still determining if that's enough.
Oh, and have we heard back from Benji what he thinks about the yellow text?
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