[Clipart] Translations

chovynz chovynz at gmail.com
Thu May 6 14:14:07 PDT 2010


RE : TAG LIST

> Whoa, never seen this page before! I'm sure this is out of date
> now...hard to keep this dynamic list up to date!
>
> Jon
>
Lol Jon. It's been there since April 09! Lol is all I can say to that.

Anyway, It wouldn't be hard to keep that up-to-date, now that the wiki
software has been updated.
Make a wiki bot, that does some sql reading's,, is registered with our wiki,
viola! an auto page that stays updated constantly, showing every tag used on
our site. (Could even have the overall list somewhere on the OCAL website,
and have the wikibot import the list to the wiki from there! Easy!)

Adding the translation aspect, you could choose which language you wanted to
display, and have the tag list in your own language.
I see some very useful things coming out of a combination of these two
tools.

RE : TRANSLATION
Some thoughts.

   - I think it would be nice to have a whole bunch of world flag icons
   somewhere, that you can click on. (These would possibly be up at the top of
   the header where the BETA sign is now... for easy selection, or in the user
   preferences page for global settings.) Until all the flags are drawn up, it
   would be possible just through a drop down language list - (of those
   languages currently supported?). (Or of every language, relying on uploaders
   to fill it out as we go?)
   - These select the language that you want to display OCAL in.
   - Using php/ajax/replacement-thingies, we can have the same interface
   (i.e. don't need to make separate page or separate clipart for each
   language) and just use the database for the tag lists.
   - Depending on what language you have set, this will load the selected
   languages tag list into the screen. This means that it can be tagged
   language for each clipart.


In database terms I'm imagining this kind of thing:

Whiteboard example<http://www.scriblink.com/index.jsp?act=phome&roomid=7330&KEY=D1CE6B06DA7DF47B766FE8BE03CC159A>

Google Spreadsheet
Example<http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AvXWaVF53qKcdFE2TDdTOXZWQUNlRWtrTjhOT2s4RGc&hl=en&output=html>

However there are problems with this model, not the least of which, what
happens when there is no english version? How do we set a default version?
How do we change that at a later date if we need to?
Instead of having 4 versions of one clipart, can we make it one clipart,
with different applied tag lists? (Which is just text.)

Last question, Do you think it's a good idea to give every registered user
the ability to edit all tag lists, descriptions, and clipart title?I think
so. It take away the burden of editing that is on the librarians. In effect,
everyone can become a librarian. Admins would have the ability to reduce any
trouble-makers to non-editing priviliges, but I think having everyone as a
librarian would do more good than bad. This would produce more eyes on the
clipart, and more contributors to making things correct.

Dunno. Just rambling now.




On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:

> Whoa, never seen this page before! I'm sure this is out of date
> now...hard to keep this dynamic list up to date!
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:58 AM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://openclipart.org/wiki/Tags_in_use
> >
> > Don't know if it's still current and there is no way I can check as yet.
> >
> > On 5/6/10, Oleg Koptev <koptev.oleg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello, all!
> >>
> >> Translation of webinterface would be great step forward really. And
> could be
> >> done in quick time.
> >> Translation of tags would be great JUMP forward, and have many more
> problems
> >> to solve.
> >>
> >> The similar problem exist at the website for icons search, i've been
> invited
> >> to translate some time ago. - findicons.com
> >> Google considers as really quick and dirty solution, but Big G
> Translation
> >> API doesn't eliminate some problems, mention before in Sebastien letter.
> >>
> >> The another solution proposed at findicons-translation maillist was to
> use
> >> local <language>-<English> dictionaries for bringing all tags to
> English.
> >> But I think it will be huge impact on speed. Or it should be almost
> static
> >> (have fixed amount of tags). I remember chovynz work with tag cloud in
> wiki,
> >> but couldn't found it.
> >>
> >> Maybe it could be solution? Having big enough almost static tag cloud
> with
> >> most relevance search weight?
> >>
> >> Regards, Boobaloo
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Chovynz
> >
>
>
>
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Cheers
Chovynz
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