[Clipart] Deleting infringing clipart

[jon at rejon.org]

ping bassel.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:06 PM, chovynz <chovynz at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hi Bassel
>
> I'm aware that you think we don't need a delete function for Librarians -
> due to "dangerous" permission levels for a Librarian to abuse those
> abilities. While that might be valid reasoning that if someone loses their
> Librarian password or their account gets hacked or whatever (there are a few
> more reasons that Bassel and I have talked about, I'm just moving quickly to
> my points...), I think we do need the delete function for the betterment of
> OCAL.
>
> I've been just watching quietly how Librarians work, and how users upload
> things, and I really can't see any reason why copyright or trademark
> infringing clipart needs to remain in the Library.
>
> Here are the issues that come up at the moment with no Delete function, and
> will be fixed, once clipart is actually deleted.
>
>    1. As a Librarian, it can be confusing to see a "hidden" clipart, if
>    given the direct link, when you are not logged in. Confusion isn't good for
>    librarians or admins, OR users since it complicates the process of
>    downloading. Jon knows about this confusion, since he had it when I sent him
>    a "hidden" clipart link. I've had it first hand after Tom sent the mailing
>    list a few hidden links. I'm sure others have had the confusion from my
>    emails too.
>    2. As an anonymous user, you would not know if the clipart was hidden
>    or not, unless someone explained it to you. There is currently no visual
>    indicator to say if a clipart is hidden.
>     3. "Hidden" clipart might not come up in the search or gallery, but
>    knowing human nature, if we have a direct link available, (and anyone is
>    able to read the mailing list archives) then anyone (including anonymous
>    users) can still download that infringing clipart.
>
> Actual removal of the clipart (or a higher level of Hiding) will stop
> further infringement via OCAL, and it will remove confusion for all users.
> Those are two good things in my books. At the very least, only the uploader
> and Librarians should be able to access any "hidden" clipart, even via
> direct link.
>
> As for thoughts on how to address these, If you really don't want to give
> Librarians the delete function, then perhaps I can suggest that one person
> be given that ability? that person will need to be contactable, and do their
> job of deletion within a reasonable timeframe and with good researching
> skills to see if that clipart really does need deleting. Or an automatic
> Database Job that once every two months, clipart with a certain system tag,
> gets deleted from the Library? Perhaps "Deletion" or something, applied and
> removable by Librarians only. These are just ideas on how to address the
> problems identified above. (If you are on the mailing list and reading this,
> and have ideas on this, please let us know.)
>
> On the other hand, I also think that Librarians need to be trusted to do
> their job (custodianship of the Library) and needs the tools to able to do
> their jobs. Clipart deletion, or permenant record removal from the Library,
> is one of those jobs. It's a high trust job, but a necessary one. Is there a
> way to facilitate the needs of the Librarian, with the security of
> logins/powerful tools? I don't really like the idea of one particular job
> resting with one person. I prefer transferably-skilled workers.
>
> Cheers
> Chovynz
>



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