[PATCH] drm/amd/display: Limit DCN to x86 arch
Harry Wentland
harry.wentland at amd.com
Tue May 23 13:37:42 UTC 2017
On 2017-05-20 04:13 AM, Christian König wrote:
> Am 19.05.2017 um 22:28 schrieb Harry Wentland:
>>
>>
>> On 2017-05-19 04:18 PM, Dave Airlie wrote:
>>> On 20 May 2017 at 05:36, Harry Wentland <harry.wentland at amd.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2017-05-19 11:02 AM, Christian König wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 19.05.2017 um 16:01 schrieb Harry Wentland:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DCN bw calcs currently rely on the following gcc options:
>>>>>> -mhard-float -msse -mpreferred-stack-boundary=4
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mhm, price question: Why does DCN rely on the gcc options?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony and Dmytro can probably provide more info here but my
>>>> understanding is
>>>> that DCN bandwidth calcs requires floating point support. This code
>>>> comes
>>>> pretty much straight from hardware teams with a guarantee that the
>>>> output is
>>>> good.
>>>>
>>>> If we were to rewrite bandwidth calculations that guarantee would
>>>> basically
>>>> fly out the window, which means when there's a bandwidth bug we cannot
>>>> easily get HW support unless we can prove that our calculations
>>>> yield the
>>>> exact same results in all cases as HWs formula. Covering all
>>>> scenarios that
>>>> bandwidth calcs covers would be quite an extensive undertaking and
>>>> I'm sure
>>>> we'd miss important cases.
>>>
>>> Is this only going to happen for X86 APUs? Using floating point in the
>>> kernel requires
>>> a lot of care to be taken, are we doing it properly?
>>>
>>
>> This case would be only for AMD X86 APUs, although I wouldn't be
>> surprised if we'd see something similar for discrete ASICs in the future.
>>
>
> Ok, that makes at least a bit more sense. On APUs we obviously know
> exactly what CPU we have.
>
>> Are you aware of anyone using our GPUs on non-X86 architectures? If
>> so, I never heard of it.
>
> Yeah, there are actually quite a number of people. That's one of the
> reasons why we still have a bunch of "#ifdef __BIG_ENDIAN" in the amdgpu
> source.
>
Interesting. I'd love to know more about this, like which platforms,
etc, since sadly we've been pretty unaware of this.
>> I realize this is raising a lot of concern. I was concerned myself
>> when I first saw this. Beside calling kernel_fpu_begin() and
>> kernel_fpu_end() are there other things to watch out for?
>
> Yeah, especially setting "-msse" is rather questionable. As far as I
> know on 64bit systems it is the default, but on 32bit systems that could
> silently break some assumptions.
>
> Additional to that as far as I know "-msse" is just for optimization and
> that isn't performance critical code, so why exactly do we need it?
>
Once we enable multi-plane code this code becomes performance critical
as I believe it gets executed when resizing an underlay surface, such as
a video player.
I don't we've tried running without -msse, though. It might be good enough.
Harry
> Christian.
>
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>> Really rewriting the calcs in fixed point is the best option, maybe
>>> push back on
>>> the hardware team to have a fixed point version created.
>>>
>>> Dave.
>>>
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