[PATCH 16/16] drm/amd/display: Don't restrict bpc to 8 bpc

Alex Deucher alexdeucher at gmail.com
Wed Dec 14 15:46:55 UTC 2022


On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 4:01 AM Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:20:59 +0100
> Michel Dänzer <michel.daenzer at mailbox.org> wrote:
>
> > On 12/12/22 19:21, Harry Wentland wrote:
> > > This will let us pass kms_hdr.bpc_switch.
> > >
> > > I don't see any good reasons why we still need to
> > > limit bpc to 8 bpc and doing so is problematic when
> > > we enable HDR.
> > >
> > > If I remember correctly there might have been some
> > > displays out there where the advertised link bandwidth
> > > was not large enough to drive the default timing at
> > > max bpc. This would leave to an atomic commit/check
> > > failure which should really be handled in compositors
> > > with some sort of fallback mechanism.
> > >
> > > If this somehow turns out to still be an issue I
> > > suggest we add a module parameter to allow users to
> > > limit the max_bpc to a desired value.
> >
> > While leaving the fallback for user space to handle makes some sense
> > in theory, in practice most KMS display servers likely won't handle
> > it.
> >
> > Another issue is that if mode validation is based on the maximum bpc
> > value, it may reject modes which would work with lower bpc.
> >
> >
> > What Ville (CC'd) suggested before instead (and what i915 seems to be
> > doing already) is that the driver should do mode validation based on
> > the *minimum* bpc, and automatically make the effective bpc lower
> > than the maximum as needed to make the rest of the atomic state work.
>
> A driver is always allowed to choose a bpc lower than max_bpc, so it
> very well should do so when necessary due to *known* hardware etc.
> limitations.
>

In the amdgpu case, it's more of a preference thing.  The driver would
enable higher bpcs at the expense of refresh rate and it seemed most
users want higher refresh rates than higher bpc.  I guess the driver
can select a lower bpc at its discretion to produce what it thinks is
the best default, but what about users that don't want the default?

Alex


> So things like mode validation cannot just look at a single max or min
> bpc, but it needs to figure out if there is any usable bpc value that
> makes the mode work.
>
> The max_bpc knob exists only for the cases where the sink undetectably
> malfunctions unless the bpc is artificially limited more than seems
> necessary. That malfunction requires a human to detect, and reconfigure
> their system as we don't have a quirk database for this I think.
>
> The question of userspace wanting a specific bpc is a different matter
> and an unsolved one. It also ties to userspace wanting to use the
> current mode to avoid a mode switch between e.g. hand-off from firmware
> boot splash to proper userspace. That's also unsolved AFAIK.
>
> OTOH, we have the discussion that concluded as
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/612#note_1359898
> which really puts userspace in charge of max_bpc, so the driver-chosen
> default value does not have much impact as long as it makes the
> firmware-chosen video mode to continue, as requested in
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/995
> given that userspace cannot know what the actual bpc currently is nor
> set the exact bpc to keep it the same.
>
>
> Thanks,
> pq


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