<html><head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> </head> <body> <p><br> </p> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">在 2020/6/10 15:41, Christian König 写道:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:b47f193a-9103-ca7b-85e6-c8a52a977da8@gmail.com"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">That's true, but for now we are stuck with the implicit sync for quite a number of use cases.<br> <br> My problem is rather that we already tried this and it backfired immediately.<br> <br> I do remember that it was your patch who introduced the pipeline sync flag handling and I warned that this could be problematic. You then came back with a QA result saying that this is indeed causing a huge performance drop in one test case and we need to do something else. Together we then came up with the different handling between implicit and explicit sync.<br> </div> </blockquote> <p>Isn't pipeline sync flag to fix some issue because of parralel execution between jobs in one pipeline? I really don't have this memory in mind why that's realted to this, Or do you mean extra sync hides many other potential issues?</p> <p>Anyway, when I go through Vulkan WSI code, the synchronization isn't so smooth between OS window system. And when I saw Jason drives explicit sync through the whole Linux ecosystem like Android window system does, I feel that's really a good direction.</p> <p>-David<br> </p> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:b47f193a-9103-ca7b-85e6-c8a52a977da8@gmail.com"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> <br> But I can't find that stupid mail thread any more. I knew that it was a couple of years ago when we started with the explicit sync for Vulkan.<br> <br> Christian.<br> <br> Am 10.06.20 um 08:29 schrieb Zhou, David(ChunMing):<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:DM5PR12MB24405F71791676A64CB02D9EB4830@DM5PR12MB2440.namprd12.prod.outlook.com"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="msipheader4d0fcdd7" style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0078D7">[AMD Official Use Only - Internal Distribution Only]</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Not sue if this is right direction, I think usermode wants all synchronizations to be explicit. Implicit sync often confuses people who don’t know its history. I remember Jason from Intel is driving explicit synchronization through the Linux ecosystem, which even removes implicit sync of shared buffer.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">-David<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> amd-gfx <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:amd-gfx-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><amd-gfx-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marek Olšák<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:58 PM<br> <b>To:</b> amd-gfx mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org></a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [PATCH] drm/amdgpu: remove distinction between explicit and implicit sync (v2)<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">This enables a full pipeline sync for implicit sync. It's Christian's patch with the driver version bumped. With this, user mode drivers don't have to wait for idle at the end of gfx IBs.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Any concerns?<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class="MsoNormal">Marek<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">_______________________________________________ amd-gfx mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" moz-do-not-send="true">amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freedesktop.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Famd-gfx&data=02%7C01%7CDavid1.Zhou%40amd.com%7C47e97eb8e3654708f7ff08d80d11bcf7%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637273717119277965&sdata=EFq2J33HIOiIS3bok2ZcIz%2FhE%2FVs9T0HPy0UFi92Nf4%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/amd-gfx" shash="Wu5qQmsssmDlZ3rZ8IUyvRR2RfYafdPHoiCAOgS6xtMeQYWO2FSq6+sbfoOW7KsVB7/XQSBzwDxl44F98MSMJ1O+xswyjle0NkNaUYcRjfMubSYTw7VV0tGW2u/ZO2v+2wy5w6UBj0PpHnsTiO9ppxdUb6HlyqdJJAKZR12o0Fw=" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/amd-gfx</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> </body> </html>