[avahi] Avahi scope?

Trent Lloyd lathiat at bur.st
Sat Jan 14 20:49:45 PST 2006

On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 09:55:57PM -0500, Lee Cullens wrote:
> Trent Lloyd wrote:
> >On Sat, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:07:31PM -0500, Lee Cullens wrote:
> >  
> >>Lee Cullens wrote:
> >>    
> >>>Avahi scope?
> >>>...................................................................
> >>>P4 with Debian Etch (testing), kernel 2.6.12-1-686 (2.6.12-10), Gnome 
> >>>desktop
> >>>PMac G5 running OS X Tiger (10.4.3)
> >>>New to Linux and putting up a no doze Linux & Mac LAN
> >>>...................................................................
> >>>
> >>>I've installed netatalk on my Linux box, and now can access and move 
> >>>files into and out of a shared directory on the Linux box from my Mac. 
> >>>In order to discover the Mac and a printer on the Mac from the Linux 
> >>>box, I found instructions that included installing mdnsresponder and 
> >>>howl-tools on the Linux box. 
> >>>The Debian packages included mdnsresponder but not howl-tools which I 
> >>>understand isn't being maintained anymore.  As I'm sure you already 
> >>>know, I instead found Avahi on Debian and that's not the 0.6.3 
> >>>version.  So in reading through the material for Avahi I see an item 
> >>>in the FAQ about not running multiple mDNS responders.
> >>>
> >>>I'm not exactly sure, but it seems to me that if I use Avahi I should 
> >>>not also use mdnsresponder - i.e. that Avahi replaces the combination 
> >>>of mdnsresponder and howl-tools.  Is this layman interpretation correct? 
> >>>If so, I guess my next step is to figure out just what I need of Avahi 
> >>>and try to build and install the latest 0.6.3 version, rather than the 
> >>>Debian 0.6.1 version that might have a problem?
> >>>
> >>>Thank you,
> >>>Lee C
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>Never mind.  I found where Avahi conflicts with mdnsresponder.  The 
> >>problem is that if I were to remove mdnsresponder and install Avahi then 
> >>I would need dbus rather than dbus1  which would in turn wipe out at 
> >>least the majority of my testing version Gnome desktop.  It may be that 
> >>such could be done with the unstable Gnome desktop, but I don't want 
> >>move whole-hog to unstable because that would undoubtedly lead to more 
> >>issues.  Yet another catch-22 :-( 
> >>    
> >
> >That has nothing to do with mdnsresponder.
> >
> >Avahi requires dbus 0.3 or above, debian probably still has 0.2 in
> >testing and so you cannot install it without upgrading it, which can
> >only be done in i think unstable, maybe even experimental.
> >
> >The conflicts with mdnsresponder are due to the need to listen on the
> >same port and that sort of thing.  Avahi can replace both mdnsresponder
> >and howl-utils (well, i dont know exactly of the utils in howl-utils,
> >but we have most usefull things, publish-service, etc) You can even make
> >use of the Bonjour or Howl API using programs using our compatability
> >layer.
> >
> >Trent
> >  
> Guess I didn't word it very well.   I meant that "if I were to install 
> Avahi as an alternative to mdnsresponder" I hit the dbus version issue 
> and don't want to go whole-hog unstable (even if that is enough).  
> Testing (Etch) is enough exposure for me, but I'll pull the occasional 
> package from unstable if I think I really need it and there aren't too 
> many consequences :-)  
> I'm back to my research trying to find a way to "discover" my Mac and a 
> printer on my Mac from my Debian Etch box.  The Debian box has netatalk 
> installed and from my Mac I can see it and share files.
> I'm happy to see Avahi jumping into the void and look forward to it 
> settling down in at least testing.   There is a Avahi-client package in 
> Debian testing, but I can't seem to figure out how to use it to discover 
> my Mac :-(

Can you tlel me what version the DBUS package is?
It's quite possible avahi will work fine just the package from unstable

as for avahi, you could install avahi-daemon and avahi-utils and run


> Thanks for the reply,
> Lee C
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Trent Lloyd <lathiat at bur.st>
Bur.st Networking Inc.

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