[Clipart] Comma-separated keywords in metadata

Bryce Harrington bryce at bryceharrington.com
Wed Jun 30 11:08:48 PDT 2004

Unless someone is super motivated to work on this, I would suggest
leaving the (hard variety) authentication until a couple releases down
the road.  I've set up such systems in the past, and they always end up
taking a lot more time and effort to get working properly than you'd
think...  At this point, I think we'd get more bang for the buck to
focus our time on categorizing and enhancing our current tools and

It's possible that once we've set up a few more tools, we may run across
a convenient way to set up auth.  For example, if/when I finally get
around to setting up mantis, perhaps it will have an auth system we
could simply hook into, and in the process gain a single-login situation
for both.  :-)


On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Jon Phillips wrote:
> We need to provide an ID for artists. We need a soft and hard username
> system whereby someone can select their artist name without a password
> and anyone can use it. That is the soft variety.
> The hard variety would then be a username/password that saves the
> artists username and password and provides an ID that refers to our site
> and contat info for the person -- a form of privacy. This is the hard
> variety.
> RWORTH and I were working on a proposal like this, but I haven't heard
> from him in a while.
> Jon
> On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 22:26, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
> > > Okay, so then we should for now concentrate on the stuff that will
> > > make it easier to add metadata to images without any, probably, or on
> > > categorization of the images that have the required metadata but are
> > > unsorted.
> > 
> > Yes, agreed.  And particularly something suitable for adding/editing
> > keywords "as we go" because I figure initially we'll just set up some
> > broad groups, like 'animals', 'people', 'signs', etc. and then as work
> > collects folks can add narrower and more specific terms. 
> > 
> > > If there are 600+ images _with_ metadata, and _most_ people didn't
> > > include it, wow, that's a lot of metadataless images sitting around,
> > > with no author info!
> > 
> > Fortunately we had several artists who were very good about submitting
> > their work as a tarball with a README or other file with their license,
> > title, and author info, so it was not hard to add the metadata.  We
> > still have a number of images without metadata, but unfortunately we
> > also have no way of determining the author info.  See the PASSFAIL
> > report in the tarball for details.
> > 
> > > Should we be adding an optional author-email field to the upload
> > > script?  I was already thinking of having it at least provide a link
> > > to a page that lists known/supported optional fields, or something.
> > > As it stands, the user has to just _know_ what fields they can add,
> > > which seems wrong.  Maybe instead of the current system for optional
> > > fields where the user specifies the name and value for the field,
> > > there could be dropdown lists for the field names, or something?
> > > (That would be easy to implement...)
> > 
> > An email address or URL for the author would be really nice to have,
> > because then we'd have a way to contact them in case there were
> > questions.  However I suspect that in many cases the author would not
> > want their email address going out in the clipart "publically", lest it
> > wind up on a web page somewhere and some spambot harvests it.  So if you
> > do add an email address field, also be sure to include a checkbox for
> > them to specify whether or not the address should be included in the
> > metadata or not (assuming there's another place to keep the address...)
> > 
> > Bryce
> > 
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