[Clipart] OpenClipart and Debian.

Daniel Carrera dcarrera at math.umd.edu
Wed Jan 12 11:02:16 PST 2005

Jon Phillips wrote:

> Sounds like a good proposal. Could you make a list of problematic images 
> then for us so that we can react accordingly? I agree that it is good to 
> work within law, but this is a tough value judgment as so many images would 
> be illegal in so many different parts of the world.

I suggest we divide images into categories. Or, at least, make 3 

   *  Flags.
   *  Company logos (or maybe just "logos").
   *  Everything else.

The advantage of this is that it's easy to do. It's not a lot of work. And 
problematic images will almost always be in "flags". Simply because of 
what flags mean to people. So, the simplest way to remove the problem 
images is to make flags a separate archive.

We could consider going a step further and splitting flags into two 

  * UN flags.
  * Other flags.

So, the problems will be almost entirely contained in the "other flags" 
category. If a flag is recognized by the UN, it's less likely to be 
controversial to anyone. But it still might. So we still give people the 
option of not downloading flags at all.

> That is what I was trying to recommend. But there are some serious issues 
> to deal with in WHO gets to decided what gets in and what doesn't get in 
> that need to be discussed. I'm still curious what other people feel on the 
> issue.

A good approach is to rely on the decision already made by another, more 
authoritative group. In the case of flags, the best options are either the 
UN or the Olympic comittie. So, we could divide the flags into the groups:

  * UN/Olympic flags.
  * Other flags.

This division addresses 95% of the problem, it doesn't take a huge ammount 
of work, and avoids the "who decides" problem.

Back to what I was saying about doing a "reasonable" effort. I think this 
is reasonable. It's not a lot of effort, and it does the bulk of the work, 
without new issues comming up.

> I don't think its fair to deny any imagery to our library, but do agree 
> that to be included in distros we should provide an everything and then 
> clean version. I can see how we would not want to include things that would 
> be considered pornography in the US if we wanted to get included in some 
> distros as well...anyway...more thoughts?

I don't know what to say about pornography. Other than that I doubt this 
would be a problem in the near future. But if it does, we would create a 
new category (e.g. "nude") for that.

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