[Clipart] 30K! and ready to launch!!!

[Jon Phillips]

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Jarod Russel <JarodR at gmx.de> wrote:
> Yes you are right it is a value judgement from my site. That is only my
> opinion. I do not see a lot of value in photographs that have been
> vectorized and stipped of clearness, certain colors and details. That
> doesn't mean it will not have value for other people. I personally do not
> consider vectorized photography as clipart, but others do. What I am afraid
> of is that this is just the beginning and people will upload poorly
> vectorized photos (meaning in general, not talking about yours...haven't
> seen a bigger image yet just thumbs). Illustrated images might get lost. In
> my opinion illustrated images are what I understand under the term cliparts.

I understand.

> As for your statement about the vectorized photographs that can't be viewed
> in browsers but in other programs, well regular john and jane do not know
> that. Yes they are valid svg, but the available/uploaded content on OCAL
> should be viewable in browsers as an image not as a xml file. People will
> get quickly irritated if they can't view it and leave OCAL. That wouldn't be
> good for the sites reputation I guess.

Yes, I agree. The thumbnails and large PNG look fine. I'll look into
the SVG problem more.

> Maybe it could be considered to open a section for vectorized photographs.
> Just a thought...

That's true. Well, the point is that they are tagged in a way that
they can be discovered (and eventually filtered out just like NSFW
images).

Cheers Jarod, have a good day.

Jon

> Am 26-Apr-10 11:36 AM, schrieb Jon Phillips:
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Jarod Russel<JarodR at gmx.de>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Alright I will give my 0.2 cents to this. I think Jon had good
>>> intentions,
>>> but I do not see vectorized photographs as something openclipart should
>>> include in the collection. I know there is a why to make vectorized
>>> photographs look like the original or almost like it. Those vectorized
>>> images take to much away from the original and it simply doesn't look
>>> good
>>> (sorry jon).
>>>
>>
>> That's a value judgment. Just because you don't think they look good
>> does not invalidate them. I'm strongly opposed to value judgments on
>> quality of clip arts. Where can you draw the line?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I also see people in some of those photographs. I really hope that is you
>>> Jon or at least somebody you got a model release signed from. If not you
>>> better write in your description down that no model release was obtained.
>>> You simply infringe this peoples privacy rights.
>>>
>>
>> I'm removing the ones without model release or people you can make
>> out. Fair enough. And, I found a few clearly recognizable brands,
>> removing those too.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Another thing I noticed is the fact that I click on the thumbnail or svg
>>> button and get a xml file instead of the vectorized image. Don't know
>>> what
>>> the problem is and it seems to happen with your images only.
>>>
>>
>> They are still valid SVG. You can open them in SVG editor. Its a
>> problem with the browsers. As far as I'm concerned, they are ok. The
>> thumbnails are fine.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Am 26-Apr-10 05:45 AM, schrieb Jon Phillips:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I should be held to the same standard as everyone else.
>>>>
>>>> But, I would say, we shouldn't just delete images unless they violate
>>>> our guidelines, which my submissions don't.
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, there are loads of vectorized images in major clipart
>>>> collections. If any of my images violate the guidelines then they
>>>> should be removed, but at the core of OCAL is to not do value
>>>> judgments, but tag, and rate clipart.
>>>>
>>>> My images are part of a vectorized collection I was interested in doing.
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM,<michaelkrnac at googlemail.com>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 30 000 clipart achieved but with a lot of bad "clip art". Well the
>>>>> image
>>>>> stuff you uploaded jon is not clipart at all.
>>>>> If they were not from you jon but by someone else, I would delete them
>>>>> immediatly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really poor!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am schrieb Jon Phillips<jon at rejon.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are now over 30K cliparts!!! We are ready to launch!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad and Bassel, anymore updates to list in the press? Lets launch out
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on sunday night PST.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cool!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon Phillips
>>>>>>
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