I've taken out the inkscape list, no sense in wasting bytes.<br><br>Now the ccHost project I take it is to fulfill the needs of the web based collaboration side of the open clip art problem, searching, rating and various other parts.
<br><br>The interesting things I noticed when dealing with the H2G2 Art Team (volunteer, heavily edited, BBC controlled group) was that some barriers are there for a reason, in fact the bars were so high that I believe they only have 5 or 6 members still doing art works for the edited guide.
<br><br>I would like to suggest the something: almost every control must be put in the hands of the artists and viewers. if there is something admins on this list need to do in order to continue then something is wrong and OCAL won't scale and won't work for long. and this is where are tools have to be clever, they have to enable without allowing abuse and so far I think it's going in the right direction.
<br><br>The sorting and grouping needs to be put into the hands of the users/artists, we need to replace the directory layout we have with a context based search terms, if we want tar downloads based on directories then we auto generate the directory from the most relevant contexts and provide the context database and tools (perl probably) with digging around for the art we're looking for.
<br><br>Best Regards, Martin Owens<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/10/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Nicu Buculei (OCAL)</b> <<a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org">email@example.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Patricia wrote:<br>><br>> Sorry to speak about wikipedia or wikicommon again but we should see<br>> this point :<br>> why wikipedia and wikicommon have a lot of contributors ?<br>> I think because they use completely the wiki.
<br><br>I think the real reason is because the barrier to entry to become a<br>contributor ti wikipedia and wikicommon is very low. In your example it<br>happens to be a wiki, which by definition is the CMS with the lowest
<br>barrier to entry.<br>Being at OCAL from almost the beginning, I remember Bryce always<br>advocating for a low barrier to entry in both OCAL and Inkscape, we<br>tried all the time to keep it low, but it appears we reached a limit.
<br><br>> Maybe the main page of openclipart should be a wiki... See<br>> <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org">http://commons.wikimedia.org</a><br><br> From my limited experience with ccHost, once having it working it
<br>should give a barrier to entry for new contributors as low as a wiki but<br>with added features (ratings, sorting, etc.)<br><br>> In the left menu of OCAL we keep the search bar, upload/download single<br>> clipart or package, news, faq in all languages...
<br>> We give the possibility to users to modify pages in their languages<br>> (some won't be open for security), to add beautiful pages, to download<br>> and manage clipart (best colors, forms, metadatas) like we do in
<br>> wikicommon.<br><br>--<br>nicu<br>Open Clip Art Library: <a href="http://www.openclipart.org">http://www.openclipart.org</a><br>my cool Fedora wallpapers: <a href="http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/">http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
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