[CREATE] [Fwd: Desktopcon.org Presentation Abstract for LGM2 + Create Project]

Jon Phillips jon at rejon.org
Sun Apr 30 20:07:17 PDT 2006


Thanks Carol for the update.

Jon

On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 18:43 -0700, Carol Spears wrote:
> hello jon and list,
> 
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 11:59:11AM -0700, Jon Phillips wrote:
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > > From: Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org>
> > > To: create at lists.freedesktop.org <create at lists.freedesktop.org>
> > > Subject: Desktopcon.org Presentation Abstract for LGM2 + Create
> > > Project
> > > Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:11:44 -0700
> > > 
> > > Hey all, I'm including here a copy of my abstract for desktopcon 2006.
> > > Please make any changes to the proposal and/or abstract by editing the
> > > wiki page here: 
> > > http://rejon.org/wiki/index.php/Desktopcon_2006
> > > 
> > > If there are any bugs in the proposal please let me know, as they are
> > > due on MAY 1. If that is accepted then I will next submit this full
> > > abstract. I kind of jumped the gun on developing the full paper, but I
> > > had the pieces laying around already ;)
> > > 
> 
> i made some edits to the wiki.  i would like to show those edits here
> and ask for discussion of other potential edits.
> 
> > > Here is a copy of the longish abstract:
> > > 
> 
> i opted to leave the "longish abstract" fully printed here with some
> breaks where i edited the wiki and where i think there should be some
> discussion.
> 
> > > 
> > > LGM2005 Overview and the Create Project: Ambiently Sharing Creativity
> > > 
> > > This presentation begins with an overview of the extremely successful
> > > Libre Graphics Meeting 2005 (LGM2005), organized by Dave Neary (the
> > > Gimp). This conference brought developers of Free and Open Source
> 
> the software previously known as TheGIMP is now known as GIMP.  this is
> an ancronym which expands to GNU Image Manipulation Program.  the "The"
> was wrong as it is not the only GNU application which manipulates
> images.  This change has occured in gimp-2.3.  Instances of gimp-2.2 or
> earlier as well as the web site have yet to reflect this change.  work
> is being done on the web site.
> 
> so this first edit to the wiki was to change Dave Neary (the Gimp) to
> Dave Neary (GIMP) since i am certain that representing the project is a
> better task than any of the options that being the Gimp might offer him.
> this is entirely theory on my part -- a projection which leads to a
> rejection.  untested.  i am not even to ask for volunteers to see if my
> assumption about this is correct or not!
> 
> > > graphics software like the Gimp, Inkscape, Scribus, Open Clip Art
> > > Library and Xara LX together to present and intermingle in order to
> 
> in this list of software, i changed the wiki from "the Gimp" to "GIMP
> (GNU Image Manipulation Program)".  i am confident that this acronym is
> correct and the expansion of this acronym is also correct; what i am not
> confident about is if the acronym GNU will be welcome to this list and
> to the bigger project.
> 
> personally, GNU is the reason i became involved with gimp.  it is the
> only baggage that i still carry (metaphorically and almost literally
> speaking) and i would like to keep it.  details can be found here:
> http://www.gnu.org there is already some working together going on at:
> http://www.fsf.org -- more of my baggage (it has been a very heavy load
> and anyone who would like to help to drag this around is welcome in my
> life....)
> 
> GIMP might be behind the times in software evolution, but it certainly
> cannot be accused of being a sell-out. </defensivness>
> 
> a formal discussion of any reservations that participants might have
> with GNU would be gladly read by me.
> 
> > > catalyze development. This first part of the presentation discusses the
> > > successes of the conference and plans for next year (2007) in Montreal
> > > with a hope to incite further participation. In support of the next
> > > Libre Graphics Meeting in Montreal, the communications and planning are
> > > happening on the Create Project's communication channels.
> > > 
> > > Both LGM and the Create Project are interested in the following
> > > problematic: Creative Free and Open Source projects such as Blender,
> > > Gimp, Inkscape, Scribus, Audacity, Open Clip Art Library and others are
> 
> here i just changed the collection of characters from "Gimp" to "GIMP".
> 
> > > highly successful projects which produce much media &mdash; video,
> > > audio, illustrations, photos, and other content. However, much code,
> > > media, and infrastructure are produced by each project somewhat
> > > independently which could be shared. For example, several of the
> > > aforementioned applications have their own brush types, color
> > > preferences, preferred media storage locations, keyboard shortcuts and
> > > file format converters. Sharing these resources saves a developer time,
> > > increases productivity, and contributes to an overall improved user
> > > experience. Because of this overlap and the similarity of creative
> > > media, there is need to work together on standards, promotions, and
> > > inter-community plans.
> > > 
> > > This second part of the presentation is about the Create Project
> > > (http://create.freedesktop.org) whose goal is to develop and consolidate
> > > shared resources amongst the various Free and Open Source creative
> > > software applications while building relationships between these
> > > communities. This part outlines the rationale for the project, its
> > > current state, who is participating, and future plans.
> > > 
> 
> GIMP is GPL.  i am not certain which version of gpl it is licensed
> under. it was gpl before *OpenSource(Software) existed as an acronymed 
> idea or before any organized group.  GIMP developers have had a
> landslide of new users who expect it to work like established propietary
> applications and even if it is not in the *OSS rules, it does seem to be
> in the spirit of *OSS ways to work like this.
> 
> the GPL in the intentions of the developers should not just disappear
> because it is time for the application to share resources with other
> similar and also free applications. (developers past and present)
> 
> > > Already Create is bearing fruit such as the Shared Resources
> > > Specification, a swatches file format, and an Open Color standard. The
> > > Shared Resources Specification consolidates brushes, gradients, color
> > > swatches, patterns, and clip art into standard locations on different
> > > operating systems for simple packaging and implementation by
> > > applications. Already, Scribus, Krita, and Inkscape support this spec
> > > with Open Clip Art Library, Gimp and others planning on supporting it in
> > > upcoming versions.
> > > 
> > > The Create Project also builds relationships through "ambient sharing."
> > > This is typified by combining developers??? blogs from the different
> > > development communities into a planet-type [2] blog aggregation,
> > > available at Create???s project space at Freedesktop.org [3]. In the
> > > commercial world, affiliations and alliances are brokered through
> > > contracts and funding. In Free and Open Source Software alternate
> > > approaches for encouraging collaboration and sharing are necessary which
> > > do not rely upon forced meetings, ultimatums, and explicit timetables
> > > that decrease the fun in development. Rather, the emphasis on ambient
> > > sharing is about providing a service for sharing, lowering social
> > > barriers for participation, and making collaboration casual.
> > > 
> > > [1] This list is not exhaustive but used as an example of the type of
> > > project that is considered a Creative Software. See
> > > http://www.blender.org, http://www.gimp.org, http://www.inkscape.org,
> > > http://www.scribus.net, and http://audacity.sourceforge.net, and
> > > http://www.openclipart.org.
> > > 
> 
> with luck and perserverence, www.gimp.org will be updated to reflect the
> change in the name.  i am sorry for whatever confusion this has caused
> to anyone trying to start with GIMP here.
> 
> > > [2] See http://www.planetplanet.org/
> > > 
> > > [3] See http://create.freedesktop.org/
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> btw, last i looked, the inkscape rss feed was broken and lately i am
> getting a 404 for the scribus feed.  i made an instance of planet in
> which news from the art applications that were involved with LGM news
> was displayed:
> 
> http://paths.gimp.org
> 
> (gimp feed is messed up as well...)
> 
> any project involved in this project should be included in this planet
> instance.  any project that does not want to be included there, i would
> like to know and understand these reasons.  i am willing to read them
> and see what i can fix here to help change things.
> 
> thank you,
> 
> carol
> 
> 
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