[CREATE] Suggested dates for LGM 2009 Montreal

[Jon Phillips]

On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 16:53 -0500, Louis Desjardins wrote:
> 2008/11/11 Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org>
>         On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 09:21 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
>         > Hi,
>         >
>         > Anders Brander wrote:
>         > > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 13:18 +0100, Dave Neary wrote:
>         > >> I don't think that most people are there for the
>         presentations, so I
>         > >> don't think "packing out" the schedule is important. It's
>         important in
>         > >> conferences where attendees pay a lot of money to go, and
>         need to
>         > >> justify the expense to their bosses by pointing out all
>         the great
>         > >> content that's scheduled. We're not in that situation.
>         > >
>         > > Well. We shouldn't have lots of presentations, with the
>         sole purpose of
>         > > selling the idea to our bosses. But; I don't see why we
>         should avoid
>         > > people talking about their small and specialized projects.
>         Some of the
>         > > talks I enjoyed most at LGM2008 were some of the very
>         specialized talks.
>         >
>         > Lightning talks! This is exactly the format small
>         specialised projects
>         > need - you get 5 minutes (an eternity!) to present what your
>         project is,
>         > some of the cool stuff people do with it, and what you're
>         interested in
>         > getting at the conference (Users? Hackers? Features?
>         Feedback?)
>         >
>         > The additional advantage of lightning talks is that you can
>         do say 2
>         > hours of them, and have 25 presentations, thus keeping lots
>         of those
>         > small projects happy. A third advantage: if one comes along
>         that few
>         > people are interested in, it's like the commercial break,
>         they'll stick
>         > around & watch it anyway, because in 5 minutes there's
>         another one coming.
>         >
>         > Cheers,
>         > Dave.
>         
>         
>         Totally.
>         
>         Louis, at the end of the day, you are organizing this, but in
>         the end we
>         have to ask ourselves what we our communities are getting out
>         of this:
>         
>         1.) collaboration time specific to our projects
>         2.) collaboration time between projects
>         3.) presenting to all about these collaborations
>         4.) discovering new projects
>         
>         
>         And, I would rank our conference priorities in that order and
>         time usage
>         that way. So, I wonder if we can do that:
>         
>         day 1: collaborate within our projects
>         day 2: presentations from major projects, set talks
>         day 3: more presentations about collaboration, major talks +
>         lightning
>         talks
>         day 4: collaboration unconference day
>         
>         But, I still really think that day 4 could be integrated into
>         day 3.
>         
>         As I said, Louis, you are taking on the big burden, and you
>         have done
>         this before so you know what you are doing...just giving my
>         few
>         cents/eurocents...
> 
> Great!
> 
> I like pretty much the "what we our communities are getting out of
> this" and the "day 1-2-3-4" breakdown parts! :)
> 
> Jon! You got it! ;)
> 
> I suggest we stick with a one-track, 4-day conf/unconf, starting on
> Wednesday, closing on Saturday. Leaving lots of room for team work and
> discussions within/among teams. Plus, new projects, fresh ideas! Some
> small, some larger. And new people too! Man! This will be fun! I think
> also that the discussion on how we fill the schedule itself can
> continue with more input as we approach the LGM. Basically, we want
> things to happen and for this we need flexibility.
> 
> You are probably right we could tighten this up into 3 days but I
> think it will be more flexible with 4, so I think I prefer flexibility
> at this point. Some people leave early in those confs... some arrive
> late... no problem! We take you as you come! :) One single day at LGM
> can change someone's life... imagine 4 days!!!
> 
> My main concern for now is establishing and securing the dates. If we
> like the 4-day event, I would then propose May 6-7-8-9. I can leave
> that open until the end of the week and make a final announcement
> about the dates on Friday. How does that sound?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Louis

Teams are really quiet right now. How about we give them until week from
now to lock in those dates? WED NOV 17.

Good!

Jon

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