[CREATE] [LGF-LGA] Ok, let's start with a website

Fri Aug 13 05:56:33 PDT 2010

Hi,

Ok, say you want to start with a website,
I think the discussion for which technical platform you are going to use is not necessary now.

I would say start with content.
What has to be on the website, to whom should it reach out, and to achieve what aim?

You can have the design and the content well underway before you start the technical implementation.

The danger of mulling to long over choosing a technique is:
you will end up modifying and hacking at it anyway
I think the most important consideration is: can you find developers that like to work with this technique. I.e. go for drupal if there is lots of enthousiastic drupal developers in the libre graphics community who have been longing to work on a project like this. ditto for the other technologies.

But I repeat i.m.h.o. it is more important to start with the actual work of what should be *on* the website,

Take care!

Eric

Op 13 aug 2010, om 14:40 heeft Camille Bissuel het volgende geschreven:

> I completely agree with a.l.e ...
> We don't want to recreate the wheel, we want to build a motor.
> It was the whole point of my BoF session at LGM 2010. If you want to listen arguments, please read my presentation :
> http://www.yagraph.org/images/LGM/what-about-a-lgf.svg (to look at in Firefox)
> 
> So... some peoples like me and a.l.e fell the necessity of such a project, and we will do it. 
> 
> And, we have to start somewhere to make this "realidad" happen. A website is a good starting point.
> 
> @a.l.e : Maybe we can contribute to Anwiki... we don't have a very short deadline.
> We have to investigate more on Aïki too. Does someone can do the same "nice points" / "less nice points" list for Aïki ?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- yagraph
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2010/8/13 jon at rejon.org <jon at rejon.org>
> If it ain't broke, then don't fix it...is my position. I'm going to
> focus on realidad.
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, a.l.e <ale.comp_06 at xox.ch> wrote:
> > hi jon,
> >
> >> This whole thread...what's the addage about painting a bikeshed? It
> >> underscores my point about distractions from accomplishing a mission.
> >> Are we here to make sites or a Foundation, both often covers for
> >> trying to raise money to raise money, or are we trying to get
> >> creative apps to work together better and build a flourishing
> >> creative community?
> >>
> >> Also, I will point out the irony that all of our communication
> >> happens on the create list and wiki.
> >>
> >> What's the point again? Or rather where is the concrete realidad to
> >> this thread?
> >>
> >> Ok, im going to go back to getting LGM day at Foss.asia lined up, LGM
> >> book, and then get sponsors for both...
> >
> > i can only give my point of view:
> >
> > - it's about an association not a foundation
> >
> > - this association should be a tool to promote the free software
> >  graphics tools in education, art and graphic industry
> >
> > - this association should take over the promotion coordination work
> >  among free software projects in the graphics field
> >
> > - this association should make sure that a LGM happens
> >
> > - this association should make sure that some sort of certification is
> >  developed which applies for the free software graphics tools.
> >
> > i have the feeling that CREATE, in its current form, can't manage most
> > of those tasks.
> >
> >
> > btw, i'm more than happy if we can have a foundation, maybe covering a
> > broader field than the graphics software, that we can work with / rely
> > upon.
> > but, in my views, rightt now, we don't have a financial problem to focus
> > on: we have to find out how to get the professional world to use our
> > software. once they are REALLY using our applications, we will have to
> > worry, how to collect some money from them!
> >
> >
> > and, as yuval pointed, the biggest problem with CREATE is its name/url:
> >
> > - i'm not happy with having a sub-domain for it
> >
> > - we can't have create.org
> >
> > - it's too close to a suite which already leads the largest parts of
> >  the market we want to take over.
> >
> > (well, in an ideal world i would love to have the CREATE name... it's
> > a wonderful name. much better than the one used for that suite. and much
> > better than LG, too. but it's not available.)
> >
> >
> > now, what's the point of starting by creating a website? no idea, but i
> > guess that we have to start from somewhere and a website is a bit like
> > a club house: a nice place where you feel welcome.
> > we are  discussing about this since a couple of years and it's nice to
> > see the work start!
> >
> >
> > just my 2.5c.
> >
> > ciao
> >
> > a.l.e
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > p.s.: i was not aware that CREATE had activities outside of the
> > graphics field. nice to know!
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