[CREATE] Code of Conduct

[Femke Snelting]

> Are there notes from the meeting?

See this thread: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/create/2014-April/004897.html
Meeting notes: http://piratepad.net/LGM2014conduct

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> I think that many people by now have heard that there has been
> prolonged harassment in the LGM community which
> continued into the LGM 2014 conference at Leipzig.
> This harassment reached a peak with physical assault in an elevator,
> and there is a witness to the assault.
>
> The University of Leipzig and the LGM sponsors have not been notified
> that there was harassment and assault during the conference.
>
> The code of conduct which was suggested as an interim code was not referenced at the meeting.
> It wasn't posted to the community at the meeting, there was no contact information provided at the meeting,
> the community wasn't informed of any procedures to take in case of incident, the community wasn't informed
> of the procedures which would be followed when an incident is reported.
> Everything was handled on the fly which resulted in the situation being handled slowly and with uncertainty as to what to do.
> One ad-hoc meeting was held between LGM leadership, the harasser, me, Steve, and the target.
> The results of this meeting have not been communicated to the community,
> nor has a clear statement been given to the harasser that these behaviors are not tolerable in our community.
>
> After the meeting, the harasser tried to intimidate me when he saw me in an area with few people.
> This harasser, who up to now has been my good friend, is a serial bully who clearly needs help.
> He has been removed from the OpenSuse community for serially bulling,
> and has been seriously warned about bullying in the OpenClipArt community.
>
> A Code of Conduct is meant to provide 3 things  - statement, definitions, processes - which are needed for practical reasons.
> CoC's must be practical above all else.
> Without these 3 elements a chaotic mess results when trouble happens.
>
> We have a clear irrefutable example of this in our own community.
>
> - Susan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jon Nordby <jononor at gmail.com <mailto:jononor at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 21 January 2014 13:25, Tobias Ellinghaus <houz at gmx.de <mailto:houz at gmx.de>> wrote:
>      > But whatever
>      > the reason is, not everyone is comfortable with the American (?) way to put
>      > everything into harmless words. So it is similar to the hugging example: may I
>      > not tell someone that he is an idiot if that is the case? Not necessarily in a
>      > derogative way, but just in a discussion. Does the idea that someone expresses
>      > his disagreement like that make you feel uncomfortable? Well, not being able
>      > to express me the way I am used to makes ME feel uncomfortable.
>
>     If something someone says in a discussion does not make sense, that is
>     what you say: X is wrong because Y.
>     The same goes if the person does something wrong, say which action you
>     believed was wrong, and why.
>     Don't call the person an idiot. It might work out most of the time*,
>     but expecting others to have a hard skin and
>     deflect the comment about their person, and to correctly deduce what
>     you *really* meant by it is not a good approach to communication.
>     It increases the risk of hurting people and/or to derail the
>     conversation. Keep criticism on actions and arguments.
>
>     *at least for the person who calls another an idiot...
>
>      > So where to draw the line? As I wrote at the first day of this discussion I
>      > also prefer the "treat others the way you think it is ok, and if it turns out
>      > that the other person doesn't feel the same then try to adapt and find some
>      > common ground for social interaction." approach. That is what being a social
>      > being is about: being able to copy with different social backgrounds, adapting
>      > and reacting to the situation at hand. And in the worst case avoid that person
>      > if interaction is not possible.
>     The people you interact with decide where they draw the line. Until
>     you know what the limits are, presuming that your own definition is
>     suitable is risky business.
>
>     My 2 øre.
>
>     --
>     Jon Nordby - www.jonnor.com <http://www.jonnor.com>
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