[rfc] The Big Picture

Samuel Cormier-Iijima sciyoshi at gmail.com
Thu Oct 26 18:28:08 PDT 2006


<sarcasm (or is it?)>
To DBus people, every problem is a DBus problem.
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Samuel Cormier-Iijima :-)

On 10/26/06, David Zeuthen <david at fubar.dk> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I agree that The Big Picture(tm) isn't really spelled out anywhere. It
> also depends on who you ask. Personally I think I've got a pretty good
> Big Picture(tm) that involves code that is in-progress
>
>  D-Bus
>  HAL
>  ConsoleKit
>  PolicyKit
>
> as well as changes to some exiting software
>
>  X.org
>  CUPS
>  ...
>
> We're getting somewhat closer every day. I've been meaning to blog about
> this, will probably do soon as I need to start writing my LCA 2007 talk
> "Gluing a desktop and a kernel together" which will focus exactly on big
> picture stuff like you are asking about.
>
> (And we badly need this so the various open source communities and the
> distribution vendors can work more closely together and align on the
> same goals.)
>
> > That would result in an activation request of
> > o.fd.Hal back to upstart,
>
> Pretty soon D-Bus will be able to activate services on the system
> message bus, see the patches that I've sent earlier. For the record,
> hardware specific user space stuff such as hplip, gpsd etc. can and
> should be spawned and life-cycle managed by hald, we've had that
> infrastructure for ages, no-one just did this.
>
> As I've tried to troll about on this list, the upstart list and my blog
> (see the entry http://blog.fubar.dk/?p=76 and the link to the upstart
> list) is that I'm not really sure where Upstart fits on the desktop in
> apart from masking problems we want to solve correctly. (I hope Scott
> don't hate me too much now.)
>
> Either way, I guess this is sorta off topic on the D-Bus mailing list.
>
>     David
>
>
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