dbus linked with libglib by default

frederic heem frederic.heem at telsey.it
Thu Sep 21 07:39:33 PDT 2006

Alle 16:22, giovedì 21 settembre 2006, Thiago Macieira ha scritto:
> frederic heem wrote:
> >Alle 15:44, giovedì 21 settembre 2006, Thiago Macieira ha scritto:
> >> frederic heem wrote:
> >> >Things has changed, the upcoming Qt 4.2 is linked with glib.
> >>
> >> Not always. It's still optional.
> >>
> >> You'll lose a lot of support from the KDE community
> >
> >Could you explain me why ? Is it a religious issue ?
> Yes. The position is "glib is fine, but don't make me link to it".
> The last time a project KDE depended on did that (aRts), it happened that:
> 1) only one developer ever worked on it and, in the end, the project died
> because he didn't have the time anymore
> 2) KDE started requiring the last version that didn't link to glib
Just because one kde project linked with glib died doesn't mean that kde can 
no longer depends on glib.  
> >Anyway glib will be linked to Qt by default.
> Huh? glib will link to Qt?
[root at heefre lib]# ldd libQtCore.so
        linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x0089e000)
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x00111000)
        libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00e6a000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x00124000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00be7000)
        libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00138000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00225000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x0024a000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00256000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x0089f000)

> >Let explain them that anyway, at the moment, an old version of glib is
> > hidden inside libdbus. So what do they prefer ? a bloated libdbus with
> > glib statically linked and libglib.so loaded by Qt, or a thin libdbus +
> > libglib.so, the last solution is better in terms of memory foot print
> > and maintenance for BOTH gnome and kde.
> >Please note that I am a kde zealot for years, and for technical reason
> > only, glib linked to Qt is a good thing.
> You've completely forgotten of the people who don't use glib now. By
> linking to it, you increase the binary size for them.
You mean people who are using dynamically typed language such as perl and 
python ? These person do not care at all about memory footprint or runtime 
speed, so add a 500 kb library won't hurt. 

> But trust me on the religious argument: don't go there. Just kill this
> idea right now.
Only technical arguments interests me,  religious arguments are for morons.


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