Starting the kdbus discussions

[Kay Sievers]

On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Kevin Krammer <krammer at kde.org> wrote:
> On Thursday, 2014-01-02, 02:03:29, Lennart Poettering wrote:

>> Coming back to the original question (or what I think the question was):
>> I figure the trusted/untrusted thing is also something that would
>> translate to whether people should ship unit files or dbus1 service
>> activation files. (That all said, thinking about it, maybe we should
>> just drop the requirement for native unit files or the user bus, and
>> just keep it in for the system bus).
>
> I think that would be nice, though my understanding from your other reply is
> that dbus-daemon will handle that as usual anyway, at least for the not too
> distant future.

On systemd systems, the current "session bus" will be replaced by one
"user bus" per user. All sessions will share the same bus of the user.
That bus will be provided by the "systemd --user" instance.

There will be no dbus-daemon running or be used by default. The system
bus and the user bus are both created by the systemd binary which also
spawns the and manages the services.

Only if needed, proxies are started on-demand to connect the old
socket to the kernel interface.

Kay