[Pm-utils] Migrating suspend quirks away from hal

Matthew Garrett mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org
Fri Nov 13 08:21:11 PST 2009

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:15:36PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:

> What is the current status of KMS for radeon and noveau? Is radeon KMS
> still marked as experimental?

It's marked as experimental, but only because the ABI isn't fixed yet. 
It should work. nouveau KMS works fine, including suspend/resume support 
on most machines.

> What do we do about users of radeon w/o KMS, nv or intel w/o i915?

nv is broadly irrelevant (quirks aren't going to help you there), 
running intel without i915 isn't going to work with the next driver 
release (which will be before any distribution ships without hal) and 
radeon without kms is effectively deprecated.

> Imo at this point it is a bit premature to rely on KMS only. Of course
> we can just keep hal around for that purpose a little longer and safe
> us the effort of a transition. My guess is, that Martin want's to get
> rid of hal completely for a default GNOME desktop install in Lucid?

Given that the X transition away from hal hasn't happened yet, there's 
no realistic chance of anyone shipping a halless distribution in the 
next release cycle. And by then KMS should be solid for everything.

Matthew Garrett | mjg59 at srcf.ucam.org

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