AppStream Ideas and Thoughts

[James Rhodes]

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:57 PM, genomega <genomega at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
>>From: James Rhodes <jrhodes at redpointsoftware.com.au>
>>Sent: Feb 13, 2011 2:22 AM
>>To: distributions at lists.freedesktop.org
>>Subject: Re: AppStream Ideas and Thoughts
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>>On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:40 PM, genomega <genomega at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: James Rhodes <jrhodes at redpointsoftware.com.au>
>>>>Sent: Feb 13, 2011 12:17 AM
>>>>To: distributions at lists.freedesktop.org
>>>>Subject: AppStream Ideas and Thoughts
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>>>>Hi Everyone,
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>>>>I guess I'm going to be barging in here with my non-standard ideas and
>>>>heretical thoughts.  Over the last 12 months I've been working on and
>>>>off a project called AppTools
>>>>(http://code.google.com/p/apptools-dist).  It was basically my attempt
>>>>to redesign the way applications are installed on Linux; a project
>>>>which I underestimated the time it would take to complete, just a
>>>>*little* ;)
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>>>>Regards, James Rhodes.
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>>> Why are you trying to re-invent the wheel?
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>>Same reason that AppStream is "reinventing" the wheel in terms of
>>standardizing the package manager UI - because the wheel is terribly,
>>terribly broken.
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> No it's not broke, rpm is a great tool and can handle almost anything that you throw at it but it requires work and studying. Every distro insists on adding their own hacks instead of following the rules. If every rpm distro followed the rules then every rpm distro could use the same rpm dist. It's an geek ego thing. I can create a spec file that will work on 5 distros, this is not what they want.
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And then you have all the Debian systems.  And all the <insert package
system here> systems.  Everyone has their own version.

The point of AppTools is that it has the capability to run atop of all
of these systems transparently (i.e. if you're on Debian, the
bootstrap will query the Debian repositories for dependencies).  The
bootstrap component to the AppFS package is capable of retrieving
dependencies needed for itself to run, such as FUSE, once again, from
the system's native repository.

Regards, James Rhodes.