From josh at joshtriplett.org  Thu Mar  5 09:47:49 2015
From: josh at joshtriplett.org (josh at joshtriplett.org)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 09:47:49 -0800
Subject: [PATCH 0/2] update dolt
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Message-ID: <20150305174749.GA18956@cloud>

On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:06:07PM -0300, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> Hi Josh, I'm not sure if you are still maintaining dolt. I didn't know it
> otherwise I would be using it since a long time. I just applied it to kmod.

I'm not really maintaining it anymore; it was originally written for
various projects in the Xorg and freedesktop community, who have since
switched away from it due to performance improvements in libtool.  I
didn't realize that dolt was still significantly faster than current
libtool.  Supposedly, the latest version of libtool uses some similar
tricks, generating a much smaller script rather than a
multi-thousand-line shell script.

If you're interested in reviving and maintaining dolt, I'm completely in
favor of you doing so. :)

> These patches are the ones I needed to build some projects I contribute to.
> 
> Lucas De Marchi (2):
>   Add --silent as a valid argument to doltcompile
>   Add --tag=disable-static as valid arg to doltcompile
> 
>  dolt.m4 | 3 ++-
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> -- 
> 2.3.1
> 

From josh at joshtriplett.org  Thu Mar  5 10:29:55 2015
From: josh at joshtriplett.org (josh at joshtriplett.org)
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 10:29:55 -0800
Subject: [PATCH 0/2] update dolt
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 <20150305174749.GA18956@cloud> <1425579210.1475.7.camel@intel.com>
Message-ID: <20150305182955.GA19274@cloud>

On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 06:13:30PM +0000, De Marchi, Lucas wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 09:47 -0800, josh at joshtriplett.org wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 02:06:07PM -0300, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> > > Hi Josh, I'm not sure if you are still maintaining dolt. I didn't know it
> > > otherwise I would be using it since a long time. I just applied it to kmod.
> > 
> > I'm not really maintaining it anymore; it was originally written for
> > various projects in the Xorg and freedesktop community, who have since
> > switched away from it due to performance improvements in libtool.  I
> > didn't realize that dolt was still significantly faster than current
> > libtool.  Supposedly, the latest version of libtool uses some similar
> > tricks, generating a much smaller script rather than a
> > multi-thousand-line shell script.
> > 
> > If you're interested in reviving and maintaining dolt, I'm completely in
> > favor of you doing so. :)
> 
> From 6min to 2.5min to compile systemd looks like a great improvement. And
> libtool for me is a 11k-lines script.

Sounds like libtool hasn't yet been fixed upstream then.

> I just saw this blog post from Harald:
> https://harald.hoyer.xyz/2015/03/05/libtool-getting-rid-of-180000-sed-forks/
> 
> There's a patch to fix libtool which greatly improves its performance, but I
> still find dolt very interesting.  I can maintain it if you prefer, but I
> don't have an account in freedesktop.org...

That's easy enough to fix, if you're willing. :)

And yeah, with a bit of work, dolt could become a viable general
replacement for libtool.  I think the hardcoded architecture list can go
away in favor of working on any Linux architecture.

- Josh Triplett