Implementing Miracast?

Ilia Mirkin imirkin at alum.mit.edu
Thu Dec 3 08:03:28 PST 2015


On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Laurent Pinchart
<laurent.pinchart at ideasonboard.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 03 December 2015 10:42:50 Ilia Mirkin wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Laurent Pinchart
>>
>> <laurent.pinchart at ideasonboard.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Jaakko,
>> >
>> > On Thursday 03 December 2015 14:42:51 Hannikainen, Jaakko wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> We're developing Miracast (HDMI over Wireless connections). The current
>> >> progress is that it 'works' in the userspace but doesn't have any
>> >> integration with X/Wayland and can only mirror the current desktop
>> >> using gstreamer.
>> >>
>> >> We're looking into extending the implementation so that we would be
>> >> able to use the remote screens just as any other connected screen, but
>> >> we're not quite sure where we should implement it.
>> >>
>> >> The DRM interface seems like the perfect fit since we wouldn't need to
>> >> patch every compositor.
>> >>
>> >> Right now, gstreamer is the equivalent of the crtc/encoder, in the DRM
>> >> model. Screens / crtcs are discovered using a WiFi's p2p protocol which
>> >> means that screens should be hotpluggable. Since we cannot change the
>> >> number of crtcs of a driver on the fly, we propose adding and removing
>> >> gpus with one crtc attached and no rendering capabilities.
>> >>
>> >> Compositors and X currently use udev to list gpus and get run-time
>> >> events for gpu hot-plugging (see the work from Dave Airlie for USB
>> >> GPUs, using the modesetting X driver). We did not find a way to tell
>> >> udev that we have a new device and it seems like the only way to get it
>> >> to pick up our driver is from a uevent which can only be generated from
>> >> the kernel.
>> >>
>> >> Since we have so many userspace components, it doesn't make sense to
>> >> implement the entire driver in the kernel.
>> >>
>> >> We would thus need to have a communication from the kernel space to the
>> >> userspace at least to send the flip commands to the fake crtc. Since we
>> >> need this, why not implement everything in the userspace and just
>> >> redirect the ioctls to the userspace driver?
>> >>
>> >> This is exactly what fuse / cuse [1] does, with the minor catch that it
>> >> creates devices in /sys/class/cuse instead of drm. This prevents the
>> >> wayland compositors and X to pick it up as a normal drm driver...
>> >>
>> >> We would thus need to have the drm subsystem create the device nodes
>> >> for us when the userspace needs to create a new gpu. We could create a
>> >> node named /dev/dri/cuse_card that, when opened, would allocate a node
>> >> (/dev/dri/cardX) and would use cuse/fuse to redirect the ioctls to the
>> >> process who opened /dev/dri/cuse_card.
>> >>
>> >> The process would then be responsible for decoding the ioctl and
>> >> implementing the drm API.
>> >>
>> >> Since this is a major change which would allow proprietary drivers to
>> >> be implemented in the userspace and since we may have missed something
>> >> obvious, we would like to start a discussion on this. What are your
>> >> thoughts?
>> >
>> > As you raise the issue, how would you prevent proprietary userspace
>> > drivers to be implemented ? Anything that would allow vendors to destroy
>> > the Linux graphics ecosystem would receive a big nack from me.
>>
>> AFAIK the displaylink people already have precisely such a driver -- a
>> (open-source) kernel module that allows their (closed-source)
>> userspace blob to present a drm node to pass through modesetting/etc
>> ioctl's.
>
> Are you talking about the drivers/gpu/drm/udl/ driver ? I might be wrong but
> I'm not aware of that kernel driver requiring a closed-source userspace blob.

Nope. That driver only works for their USB2 parts. This is what I mean:

https://github.com/DisplayLink/evdi
http://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/679060
http://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/615714#ubuntu

  -ilia


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