[PATCH v3 05/12] drm/ttm: Expose ttm_tt_unpopulate for driver use

Andrey Grodzovsky Andrey.Grodzovsky at amd.com
Wed Dec 16 16:13:48 UTC 2020


On 12/16/20 9:21 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 9:04 AM Christian König
> <ckoenig.leichtzumerken at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Am 15.12.20 um 21:18 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>>> [SNIP]
>>>>> While we can't control user application accesses to the mapped
>>>>> buffers explicitly and hence we use page fault rerouting
>>>>> I am thinking that in this  case we may be able to sprinkle
>>>>> drm_dev_enter/exit in any such sensitive place were we might
>>>>> CPU access a DMA buffer from the kernel ?
>>>> Yes, I fear we are going to need that.
>>>>
>>>>> Things like CPU page table updates, ring buffer accesses and FW
>>>>> memcpy ? Is there other places ?
>>>> Puh, good question. I have no idea.
>>>>
>>>>> Another point is that at this point the driver shouldn't access any
>>>>> such buffers as we are at the process finishing the device.
>>>>> AFAIK there is no page fault mechanism for kernel mappings so I
>>>>> don't think there is anything else to do ?
>>>> Well there is a page fault handler for kernel mappings, but that one
>>>> just prints the stack trace into the system log and calls BUG(); :)
>>>>
>>>> Long story short we need to avoid any access to released pages after
>>>> unplug. No matter if it's from the kernel or userspace.
>>>
>>> I was just about to start guarding with drm_dev_enter/exit CPU
>>> accesses from kernel to GTT ot VRAM buffers but then i looked more in
>>> the code
>>> and seems like ttm_tt_unpopulate just deletes DMA mappings (for the
>>> sake of device to main memory access). Kernel page table is not touched
>>> until last bo refcount is dropped and the bo is released
>>> (ttm_bo_release->destroy->amdgpu_bo_destroy->amdgpu_bo_kunmap). This
>>> is both
>>> for GTT BOs maped to kernel by kmap (or vmap) and for VRAM BOs mapped
>>> by ioremap. So as i see it, nothing will bad will happen after we
>>> unpopulate a BO while we still try to use a kernel mapping for it,
>>> system memory pages backing GTT BOs are still mapped and not freed and
>>> for
>>> VRAM BOs same is for the IO physical ranges mapped into the kernel
>>> page table since iounmap wasn't called yet.
>> The problem is the system pages would be freed and if we kernel driver
>> still happily write to them we are pretty much busted because we write
>> to freed up memory.


OK, i see i missed ttm_tt_unpopulate->..->ttm_pool_free which will release
the GTT BO pages. But then isn't there a problem in ttm_bo_release since
ttm_bo_cleanup_memtype_use which also leads to pages release comes
before bo->destroy which unmaps the pages from kernel page table ? Won't
we have end up writing to freed memory in this time interval ? Don't we
need to postpone pages freeing to after kernel page table unmapping ?


> Similar for vram, if this is actual hotunplug and then replug, there's
> going to be a different device behind the same mmio bar range most
> likely (the higher bridges all this have the same windows assigned),


No idea how this actually works but if we haven't called iounmap yet
doesn't it mean that those physical ranges that are still mapped into page
table should be reserved and cannot be reused for another
device ? As a guess, maybe another subrange from the higher bridge's total
range will be allocated.

> and that's bad news if we keep using it for current drivers. So we
> really have to point all these cpu ptes to some other place.


We can't just unmap it without syncing against any in kernel accesses to those 
buffers
and since page faulting technique we use for user mapped buffers seems to not be 
possible
for kernel mapped buffers I am not sure how to do it gracefully...

Andrey


> -Daniel
>
>> Christian.
>>
>>> I loaded the driver with vm_update_mode=3
>>> meaning all VM updates done using CPU and hasn't seen any OOPs after
>>> removing the device. I guess i can test it more by allocating GTT and
>>> VRAM BOs
>>> and trying to read/write to them after device is removed.
>>>
>>> Andrey
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>> Andrey
>>>>
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