[PATCH 06/23] drm/xe/svm: Introduce a helper to build sg table from hmm range

Daniel Vetter daniel at ffwll.ch
Tue Apr 30 18:57:48 UTC 2024


On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 02:30:02PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 10:25:48AM +0200, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> 
> > > Yes there is another common scheme where you bind a window of CPU to
> > > a
> > > window on the device and mirror a fixed range, but this is a quite
> > > different thing. It is not SVA, it has a fixed range, and it is
> > > probably bound to a single GPU VMA in a multi-VMA device page table.
> > 
> > And this above here is exactly what we're implementing, and the GPU
> > page-tables are populated using device faults. Regions (large) of the
> > mirrored CPU mm need to coexist in the same GPU vm as traditional GPU
> > buffer objects.
> 
> Well, not really, if that was the case you'd have a single VMA over
> the entire bound range, not dynamically create them.
> 
> A single VMA that uses hmm_range_fault() to populate the VM is
> completely logical.
> 
> Having a hidden range of mm binding and then creating/destroying 2M
> VMAs dynamicaly is the thing that doesn't make alot of sense.

I only noticed this thread now but fyi I did dig around in the
implementation and it's summarily an absolute no-go imo for multiple
reasons. It starts with this approach of trying to mirror cpu vma (which I
think originated from amdkfd) leading to all kinds of locking fun, and
then it gets substantially worse when you dig into the details.

I think until something more solid shows up you can just ignore this. I do
fully agree that for sva the main mirroring primitive needs to be page
centric, so dma_map_sg. There's a bit a question around how to make the
necessary batching efficient and the locking/mmu_interval_notifier scale
enough, but I had some long chats with Thomas and I think there's enough
option to spawn pretty much any possible upstream consensus. So I'm not
worried.

But first this needs to be page-centric in the fundamental mirroring
approach.
-Sima
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Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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