<html><head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> </head> <body> I will answer everything here - <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-08-31 9:58 p.m., Liu, Monk wrote: </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:BL1PR12MB5269EB4E07A80EEB48A391DF84CD9@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style>@font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}@font-face {font-family:DengXian; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}@font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}@font-face {font-family:"\@DengXian"; panose-1:2 1 6 0 3 1 1 1 1 1;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}p.msipheadera4477989, li.msipheadera4477989, div.msipheadera4477989 {mso-style-name:msipheadera4477989; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;}.MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;}div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;}</style> <div class="WordSection1"> [AMD Official Use Only]<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> In the previous discussion, you guys stated that we should drop the “kthread_should_park” in cleanup_job.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> @@ -676,15 +676,6 @@ drm_sched_get_cleanup_job(struct drm_gpu_scheduler *sched)<o:p></o:p> {<o:p></o:p> struct drm_sched_job *job, *next;<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> - /*<o:p></o:p> - * Don't destroy jobs while the timeout worker is running OR thread<o:p></o:p> - * is being parked and hence assumed to not touch pending_list<o:p></o:p> - */<o:p></o:p> - if ((sched->timeout != MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT &&<o:p></o:p> - !cancel_delayed_work(&sched->work_tdr)) ||<o:p></o:p> - kthread_should_park())<o:p></o:p> - return NULL;<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> But I suddenly have a question here: if return the timedout job no matter kthread_should_park() or not, then we are backing to the original problem again: that the timedout_job is suddenly signaling and cleanup_job still returns it to sched_main and job is freed while it is still handling by vendor’s timeout callback<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> If we return NULL when kthread_should_park() in cleanup_job, we can prevent above scenario from happening: once a job is processed by job_timedout we can stop its scheduler, and after that even this job suddenly signaled the cleanup_job won’t return it so sched_main won’t free it in parallel … <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> What do you think ? </div> </blockquote> Is your analysis above takes into account that you also submit '[PATCH 2/2] drm/sched: serialize job_timeout and scheduler' then I don't see a problem - I think that as long as you put kthread_park(sched->thread) BEFORE fetching next bad job from pending list (under spinlock) there is no such issue as in the case you describe because this potential bad job that became signaled will be removed from pending list before you even fetch the next job and by the time you fetch it the scheduler thread is already stopped anyway If you don't submit and we keep the removal hack for now then also no problem because we temporary remove the job we fetch for TDR from pending list under spinlock exactly to avoid this race <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:BL1PR12MB5269EB4E07A80EEB48A391DF84CD9@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com"> <div class="WordSection1"> <o:p></o:p> <div> Thanks <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> ------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p> Monk Liu | Cloud-GPU Core team<o:p></o:p> ------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> From: Liu, Monk Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 9:23 AM To: Koenig, Christian <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Christian.Koenig@amd.com"><Christian.Koenig@amd.com></a>; Grodzovsky, Andrey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com"><Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com></a>; Daniel Vetter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:daniel@ffwll.ch"><daniel@ffwll.ch></a>; Chen, JingWen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:JingWen.Chen2@amd.com"><JingWen.Chen2@amd.com></a> Cc: DRI Development <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"><dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org">amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org</a> Subject: [diagnostic TDR mode patches] unify our solution opinions/suggestions in one thread<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> [AMD Official Use Only]<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Hi Daniel/Christian/Andrey<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It looks the voice from you three are spread over those email floods to me, the feature we are working on (diagnostic TDR scheme) is pending there for more than 6 month (we started it from feb 2021).<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Honestly speaking the email ways that we are using now is not friendly and quite painful to me ….<o:p></o:p> Can we try to put all our opinions, suggestions, or even objects here together, let’s go through them one by one, it’s too hard for us to reply each email on different questions .<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> For [PATCH 1/2] drm/sched: fix the bug of time out calculation(v4)<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> This is a fixing patch on the timeout timer in scheduler, can we complete this one first ? it should already resolved all the questions and suggestions. </div> </blockquote> I have no objections for this one besides getting rid of the kthread_should_park()) return null part, if my answer above is not wrong then it seems superfluous to me <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:BL1PR12MB5269EB4E07A80EEB48A391DF84CD9@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com"> <div class="WordSection1"> <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> For [PATCH 2/2] drm/sched: serialize job_timeout and scheduler<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I think I already explained the questions raised by Daniel in other thread , regarding why I use __kthread_should_park() </div> </blockquote> Is this race free ? Can't the other thread execute kthread_park after the check ? <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:BL1PR12MB5269EB4E07A80EEB48A391DF84CD9@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com"> <div class="WordSection1"> <o:p></o:p> For other aspects, can we put all our opinion synthesized here ? </div> </blockquote> So to summarize from previous threads I think that the best solution to the problem being solved in this patch is if we do HW fence embedding at the drm_sched_job level instead of doing it only for amdgpu, and modifying all the drivers to support this we can both remove this hack and solve the race against concurrent drm_sched_cleanup_jobs job freeing just by taking reference to the hw fence of the job at the beginning of drm_sched_job_timedout If doing this refactoring for all the drivers is not an option now and you need a quick solution such as the serialization you do here then take into account other concurrent TDR handlers that might run, as mentioned before, without serializing against other TDR handlers from other schedulers you just race here against them, e.g. you parked it now but another one in progress will unpark it as part of calling drm_sched_start for other rings. So you either need a global lock or dedicated single threaded queue as Daniel suggested. At minimum we should change cancel_delayed_work in drm_sched_stop to cancel_delayed_work_sync to cancel and flush all concurrent TDRs and probably move it to the begining of the function, after kthread_park and before we start playing with the pending list. P.S One comment I had regarding single threaded queue is that in case we have multiple TDR arising from same event we will proceed to resetting multiple times - something that with trylock we mostly avoid today within amdgpu (see amdgpu_device_lock_adev and amdgpu_device_lock_hive_adev) Daniel mentioned it's not a problem but I still haven't understood why not. Andrey <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:BL1PR12MB5269EB4E07A80EEB48A391DF84CD9@BL1PR12MB5269.namprd12.prod.outlook.com"> <div class="WordSection1"> <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thanks !<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> ------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p> Monk Liu | Cloud-GPU Core team<o:p></o:p> ------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html>