GitHub considered harmful

[Matthew Leeds]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:58 AM Alexander Larsson <alexl at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> I find what ICE is doing reprehensible, and I would prefer if github
> dropped ICE as a customer. But I realize the complexities of business,
> and this contract is imho not something fundamental or defining of the
> github organization either in terms of money or in moral values, nor
> is it (I assume) a major thing for the ICE operational capabilities. I
> also think that flatpak moving elsewhere will not really add a
> significant effect to this particular case as this is already being
> fought in a lot of ways.
>
> So, currently I don't think there is an urgent need to switch from
> github to something else.
>
> However, long-term we should maybe look at options for infrastructure
> that are not directly tied to any particular company. For example,
> freedesktop.org is pretty closely tied with flatpak in terms of values
> and goals.

+1 to this. What ICE is doing is morally indefensible, but it makes
more sense to find more direct ways to put pressure on them. Write
a letter to your representatives, organize a nonviolent direct action
or a demonstration, etc.

I also agree it's worth considering a move to fd.o infra so we can be
on an open platform. GitLab seems to work beautifully for GNOME
and Debian. I don't think it would be much of a disruption if Flatpak
moved without all the Flathub repos moving at the same time. Am
I missing something?

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Matthew Leeds