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<p>Got reply from Unicode mail list. From their suggestion, the
Japanese emoji by DoCoMo, KDDI, SoftBank, could be such a
necessary subset.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://unicode.org/Public/UCD/latest/ucd/EmojiSources.txt">http://unicode.org/Public/UCD/latest/ucd/EmojiSources.txt</a><i><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new
roman",serif"><i>At this point, the original set of
Japanese emoji has long since been surpassed. The
recommendation is to support the set of emoji in the data
files referenced by </i><i><a
href="http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/">http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/</a></i><i>.
There's much more information about various choices there.</i></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new
roman",serif"><i><br>
</i></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"times new
roman",serif"><i>Note that there is a proposed new version
that will be discussed in early November, at </i><i><a
href="http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/proposed.html">http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/proposed.html</a></i><i>,
with additional emoji focused around gender support.</i></div>
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<div style="background-color:transparent;margin:0px">Mark</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">在 2016年09月08日 03:44, suzuki toshiya 写道:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Oops,
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<pre wrap="">cellarphone. However, I don't think recent emoji
pushers do not care about this subset.
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I mean: however, I don't think recent emoji
pushers care about this subset.
Regards,
mpsuzuki
suzuki toshiya wrote::
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<pre wrap="">Dear Tagoh-san,
One of the recognizable subset would be the set to
interchange original "emoji" used by legacy Japanese
cellarphone. However, I don't think recent emoji
pushers do not care about this subset.
To consider other new emojis, should we ask for the
comments from Unicode (or ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2) experts,
to define the subset to judge whether the font is
sufficient to use to display emojis.
Also I'm interested in that fontconfig is expected
to pick the font supporting color glyphs, and/or,
supporting VS to display existing symbols with emoji-
style.
Regards,
mpsuzuki
Akira TAGOH wrote::
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<pre wrap="">Well, you may misunderstood my question. let me rephrase. the question
is, is a font required to contain all of them to say "our fonts support
emoji" or to indicate that in fontconfig? and how many emoji fonts has
supported all of them at this moment? in other words, if a font is more
or less missing them, it won't be recognized as emoji-aware.
I don't see any mention about it there at least. .orth files in
fontconfig doesn't contain all of Unicode code points which is used in
those languages because some of them isn't often used and may not be
implemented for priority etc.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Guo Yunhe <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:guoyunhebrave@gmail.com">guoyunhebrave@gmail.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:guoyunhebrave@gmail.com"><mailto:guoyunhebrave@gmail.com></a>> wrote:
Here is the official define of emoji characters. (Opening this page
may hang your browser for a while!!!)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html">http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html"><http://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html></a>
Hope it would be helpful.
在 2016年09月07日 14:21, Akira TAGOH 写道:
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<pre wrap=""> The problem on that idea is how to figure out what the minimal
coverage in emoji block. at this point, the minimal glyph coverage
for langs are defined in fc-lang/*.orth and cache files contains
lang property only which fonts satisfies the coverage for. if
there are any specs defining a must or an optional to have, that
may be helpful otherwise we may need to think about another idea
for that.
maybe good to have a property in a cache to indicate if a font has
an emoji or not, and we could leave the way to use it to
applications perhaps.
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Guo Yunhe <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:guoyunhebrave@gmail.com">guoyunhebrave@gmail.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:guoyunhebrave@gmail.com"><mailto:guoyunhebrave@gmail.com></a>> wrote:
Hi, I recently studied some emoji fonts. These emoji fonts
have fontconfig difficulties when packaging. They try to set
the font as default emoji font but do not affect others.
Usually the font has a separated configure file.
<match>
<test name="family">
<string>sans-serif</string>
</test>
<edit binding="strong" name="family">
<string>Nimbus Sans L</string>
<string>EmojiOne Color</string>
</edit>
</match>
However, this will affect sans-serif font settings of other
font packages or users' setting, because the package do not
know which sans-serif font users want to use.
I suggest maybe we can map the Unicode emoji block as test
condition. Just like when we set a Japanese font, it won't
affect English and Arabic fonts.
<match>
<test name="family">
<string>sans-serif</string>
</test>
<test name="lang">
<string>emoji</string>
</test>
<edit binding="strong" name="family">
<string>EmojiOne Color</string>
</edit>
</match>
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Guo Yunhe
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Guo Yunhe
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