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[06:43] <PartyZan> Buy:)
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[09:22] <chillywilly> hey steveb
[09:23] <steveb> hi
[09:24] <chillywilly> whazzup
[09:34] <steveb> just figuring out where we're meeting today
[09:36] <chillywilly> oh
[09:39] <chillywilly> you guys in amsterdam?
[09:43] <steveb> yeah
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[10:46] <steveb> BBB: you going at 12?
[10:46] <BBB> I'm leaving at a few minutes past 11 and hope to be there at 12.15
[10:47] <steveb> ok, see you there
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[10:47] <BBB> you're leaving now?
[10:47] <BBB> :)
[10:47] <BBB> seeya there :)
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[10:52] Action: BBB is away: to our gstreamer meeting in Amsterdam! :)
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[13:12] <Uraeus> hello
[13:21] Nick change: wtay-sleeping -> wtay
[13:21] <wtay> hi Uraeus
[13:21] <wtay> ..and others...
[13:25] <Uraeus> morning wtay
[13:29] <Uraeus> hmm, think  the Slashdot crowd hit a new low with their comments on my Eazel interview
[13:30] <Uraeus> 112 comments total, 10 which could be seens as constructive or positive
[13:30] <wtay> hmm.. reading..
[13:37] <wtay> I aways like the comments like "shut up and code, instead of complaining..."
[13:39] <Uraeus> yup
[13:47] <wtay> back in 30mins...
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[13:57] <hadess> hi gang
[13:58] <Uraeus> hi hadess
[13:58] <hadess> hi Uraeus, i'm reading your eazel interview =)
[13:59] <Uraeus> hope you like it
[14:01] <hadess> i always like your stuff dude
[14:03] <Uraeus> thanks :)
[14:03] <Uraeus> hadess: so how are things going on your musicbox project?
[14:05] <hadess> it's soundbox, i'm having a bit of problems understanding how libcdaudio works
[14:05] <hadess> because of the 0 documentation there is
[14:06] <hadess> but i can already detect insertion of a CD, which is good
[14:06] <hadess> i will have to write a custom widget i think as well
[14:06] <Uraeus> hmm: wonder how that panel effect is done: http://www.workthatmouse.com/images/NiceSnapshot.jpg
[14:10] <hadess> i think it's a "fake" transparency
[14:10] <Uraeus> hadess: just a darker panel background you mean?
[14:12] <hadess> yup, cut and the bottom of the background, apply effect, and set it as panel bg
[14:15] <hadess> http://linux.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=1&aid=11994 <- my new article
[14:20] <Uraeus> nice, I see you to like the crossfade plugin :)
[14:20] <hadess> yep
[14:22] <hadess> you like it as well ?
[14:23] <wtay> back
[14:23] <wtay> yo
[14:24] <hadess> hi wtay
[14:24] <Uraeus> hadess: yes
[14:24] <hadess> i'm updating my gstreamer to test out newer xvideosink
[14:26] <wtay> hadess: do you have time to debug the videotest2 issues you had?
[14:29] <hadess> i'd need to update a patch i have for rio500, shouldn't take too long
[14:29] <hadess> just after that, i'm available for debugging
[14:29] <wtay> cool
[14:47] <Uraeus> hadess: http://www.linuxrising.com/files/screenshot14.jpg
[14:47] <Uraeus> as you see I managed learned the fake tricks :)
[14:48] <Uraeus> s/fake/fake transp/
[14:57] <hadess> Uraeus: very nice
[14:57] <hadess> i'm cleaning up the diff i made, and will be done then
[15:08] <hadess> done
[15:09] <Uraeus> hadess: this conversation has now been immortalised and will soon pop up in the themes.org screenshot section :)
[15:09] <hadess> heh =)
[15:13] <hadess> wtay: it's somewhat working now
[15:13] <wtay> somewhat?
[15:14] <hadess> the only problem is that it's trying to capture yuv422 which is not supported by the camera
[15:14] <hadess> v4l: capture probe yuv422...	ok <- and it's not
[15:14] <wtay> oh
[15:14] <wtay> it should fail with an ioctl error then..
[15:15] <wtay> naughty driver :)
[15:15] <hadess> yep
[15:15] <hadess> what format number is yuv422 ?
[15:15] <wtay> we don't use them anymore
[15:16] <hadess> yes, but you're still requesting formats from the webcam driver
[15:16] <hadess> ov511.c: Unknown mode (64, 48): 4
[15:16] <hadess> ov511.c: Unknown mode (64, 48): 7
[15:16] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[15:16] <wtay> it's now fourcc YUY2
[15:16] <hadess> so what is format 7 ?
[15:16] <wtay> those are the native formats
[15:16] <wtay> hmm.. sec..
[15:16] <wtay> VIDEO_BGR24
[15:16] <wtay> as defined in grab.h
[15:17] <hadess> ok
[15:17] <wtay> in fact I should check if the format is supported before agreeing to caps nego...
[15:18] <hadess> videosink seems to work though
[15:18] <wtay> so what format is the camera using now?
[15:19] <hadess> hmm, actually it might not be the webcam...
[15:20] <hadess> otherwise it would have failed the format
[15:20] <hadess> do you do any byte swapping in the xvideosink
[15:22] <wtay> nope
[15:24] <hadess> it should be using Xv to do that, right ?
[15:25] <wtay> can you paste the output starting with X: and Xv: here?
[15:25] <wtay> hadess: yes
[15:25] <hadess> X: class:       4
[15:25] <hadess> X: red mask:    00ff0000
[15:25] <hadess> X: green mask:  0000ff00
[15:25] <hadess> X: blue mask:   000000ff
[15:25] <hadess> X: bit per rgb: 8
[15:25] <hadess> X: map entries: 256
[15:25] <hadess> X: endianness:  big
[15:25] <hadess> Xv: 1 adaptors available.
[15:25] <hadess> Xv: ATI Rage128 Video Overlay: input image, ports 42-42
[15:26] <wtay> and the image format list?
[15:27] <hadess> image format list looks like ?
[15:27] <wtay>   image format list for port 59
[15:27] <wtay>     0x32595559 (YUY2) packed
[15:27] <wtay>     0x32315659 (YV12) planar
[15:27] <wtay>     0x30323449 (I420) planar
[15:27] <wtay>     0x59565955 (UYVY) packed
[15:28] <hadess> nothing like that
[15:28] <wtay> hmm
[15:29] <wtay> there are two parts of X: Xv: logs, it should be in the first part
[15:29] <hadess> no, i don't have anything
[15:29] <wtay> strange
[15:29] <hadess> oh, got it
[15:30] <hadess>   image format list for port 42
[15:30] <hadess>     0x32595559 (2YUY) packed
[15:30] <hadess>     0x59565955 (YVYU) packed
[15:30] <hadess>     0x32315659 (21VY) planar
[15:30] <hadess>     0x30323449 (024I) planar
[15:30] <wtay> hehe
[15:30] <wtay> wrong order..
[15:30] <hadess> was hidden by all the warnings
[15:30] <hadess> yep
[15:31] <wtay> understandable, fixing...
[15:36] <wtay> hadess: I'm going to add a little debug info in the v4lsrc plugin to see what formats are passed and in what order...
[15:37] <hadess> wtay: ok
[15:41] <wtay> hadess: can you cvs update in plugins/capture/v4l ?
[15:42] <wtay> can you paste all lines after:
[15:42] <wtay> v4l:  picture : brightness=32000 hue=32768 colour=32512 contrast=32000
[15:42] <wtay> v4l:  picture : whiteness=0 depth=0 palette=yuv422
[15:42] <wtay> like:
[15:42] <wtay> v4lsrc: error setting params
[15:42] <wtay> v4lsrc: opening
[15:42] <wtay> v4lsrc: got format 32595559
[15:42] <wtay> v4l: capture probe yuv422...	ok
[15:42] <wtay> etc...
[15:45] <hadess> v4lsrc: error setting params
[15:45] <hadess> v4lsrc: opening
[15:45] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 32595559
[15:45] <hadess> v4l: capture probe yuv422...	ok
[15:46] <wtay> pff that sucks
[15:46] <hadess> it's all green and purple
[15:47] <wtay> no wonder, you said yuv422 is not supported by your cam
[15:48] <hadess> let me check again
[15:48] <wtay> checking if there's an API to get the supported formats from a v4l device...
[15:51] <hadess> in the latest changelog of the driver it says: - Added YUV420P format (same as YUV420)
[15:52] <hadess> so it must actually be working, overlay doesn't work though, and i'm sure of that
[15:56] <wtay> looks like the driver says it accepts yuv422 but in fact it accepted yuv420 then...
[15:57] <hadess> flood coming
[15:57] <hadess> static struct palette_list plist[] = {
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_GREY,   "GREY" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_HI240,  "HI240" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_RGB565, "RGB565" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_RGB24,  "RGB24" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_RGB32,  "RGB32" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_RGB555, "RGB555" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV422, "YUV422" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_YUYV,   "YUYV" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_UYVY,   "UYVY" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV420, "YUV420" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV411, "YUV411" },
[15:57] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_RAW,    "RAW" },
[15:58] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV422P,"YUV422P" },
[15:58] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV411P,"YUV411P" },
[15:58] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV420P,"YUV420P" },
[15:58] <hadess>         { VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV410P,"YUV410P" },
[15:58] <hadess>         { -1, NULL }
[15:58] <hadess> };
[15:58] <hadess> that is the supported palettes for the ov511 driver
[15:58] <wtay> cool
[15:59] <hadess> no, it is the list of _all_ the formats
[15:59] <hadess>         case VIDEO_PALETTE_GREY:    return 8;
[15:59] <hadess>         case VIDEO_PALETTE_RGB565:  return 16;
[15:59] <hadess>         case VIDEO_PALETTE_RGB24:   return 24;
[15:59] <hadess>         case VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV422:  return 16;
[15:59] <hadess>         case VIDEO_PALETTE_YUYV:    return 16;
[15:59] <hadess>         case VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV420:  return 24;
[15:59] <hadess>         case VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV422P: return 24; /* Planar */
[15:59] <hadess>         case VIDEO_PALETTE_YUV420P: return 24; /* Planar */
[15:59] <hadess> this is the supported ones
[16:00] <hadess> the problem seems to be in the Xv driver not accepting these...
[16:01] <wtay> hmm
[16:01] <wtay> YUV422 = YUY2
[16:02] <hadess> but the Xv driver says it supports 2YUY
[16:03] <wtay> that a BE/LE issue that I fixed, you should reverse the chars there...
[16:03] <hadess> you updated the xvideosink as well ? i didn't
[16:03] <wtay> I did not commit that one... sec..
[16:04] <wtay> ok update in xvideosink
[16:06] <hadess> same problem
[16:06] <wtay> but the printout is correct now I assume
[16:06] <wtay>   0x32595559 (YUY2) packed
[16:06] <wtay> [15:27:50] <wtay>     0x32315659 (YV12) planar
[16:06] <wtay> [15:27:50] <wtay>     0x30323449 (I420) planar
[16:06] <wtay> [15:27:50] <wtay>     0x59565955 (UYVY) packed
[16:06] <wtay> etc..
[16:07] <hadess>     0x32595559 (YUY2) packed
[16:07] <hadess>     0x59565955 (UYVY) packed
[16:07] <hadess>     0x32315659 (YV12) planar
[16:07] <hadess>     0x30323449 (I420) planar
[16:07] <wtay> good
[16:07] <hadess> very =)
[16:07] <wtay> can you do a screenshot of what you see now?
[16:09] <hadess> hmm, no, or you'll have to tell me how i can do that, because it goes all black
[16:09] <hadess> overlay is working
[16:09] <wtay> oh yes.. Xv
[16:09] <wtay> so it's all with wrong colors now?
[16:10] <hadess> green and purple, and i'm all green
[16:10] <wtay> is there also picture distortion or just wong colors?
[16:11] <hadess> there's alsp distortion on the right hand side
[16:11] <wtay> heh
[16:11] <hadess> like a black fading on half of the image
[16:12] <wtay> can you try to comment out lines 245-248 in gstv4lsrc.c
[16:12] <wtay> lets try another format
[16:14] <hadess> yuv420p is not supported in the version of the driver i have, but i can update it
[16:14] <hadess> v4l: capture probe yuv420p...	v4lsrc: error setting params
[16:14] <hadess> v4l: ioctl VIDIOCMCAPTURE(572732720,yuv420p,572531488x892351792): Invalid argument
[16:15] <wtay> ok
[16:15] <wtay> checking in a fix...
[16:16] <wtay> update in v4l
[16:17] <hadess> doesn't work
[16:18] <hadess> hold on
[16:19] <wtay> I can reproduce the same green/purple stuff you see now
[16:19] <hadess> heh, should i comment the yuv422 format again ?
[16:19] <hadess> cool
[16:19] <wtay> yes
[16:20] <hadess> v4l: capture probe yuv420p...	v4lsrc: error setting params
[16:20] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 20424752
[16:20] <hadess> v4lsrc: got depth 24, endianness 4321
[16:20] <hadess> v4l: capture probe rgb24...	ok
[16:20] <hadess> i get black&white image, completely screwed up
[16:20] <hadess> no overlay i think
[16:20] <wtay> nope, it falls back to plain XSHM now
[16:21] <hadess> ok
[16:21] <hadess> so that i can take screenshots ?
[16:21] <wtay> it looks like YUY2 really is UYVY on your machine...
[16:22] <hadess> i have a r128
[16:24] <wtay> I'm going to try something here.. sec..
[16:28] <wtay> update v4l again
[16:29] <wtay> no need to comment anything out now
[16:30] <hadess> i get blueish on the left and greenish on the right
[16:31] <hadess> v4lsrc: error setting params
[16:31] <hadess> v4lsrc: opening
[16:31] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 32595559
[16:31] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 59565955
[16:31] <hadess> v4l: capture probe yuv422...	ok
[16:33] <wtay> looks like the yuv formats of v4l and Xv are completely different then
[16:37] <hadess> i don't think so, because you can overlay with xawtv
[16:38] <wtay> strange
[16:42] <hadess> "FIXME: We can't handle anything but YUV420 so far" haha !
[16:43] <hadess> that's in the sources of the driver
[16:45] <hadess> this is really weird shit
[16:45] <wtay> oops
[16:46] <hadess> what is it ?
[16:46] <wtay> only YUV420 is supported then
[16:47] <hadess> don't know, i found yuv420 yuv422 parsers in the sources
[16:47] <wtay> maybe they only work partially then.. that could explain the wrong colors...
[16:48] <hadess> is there yuv420 support in the v4l plugin ?
[16:48] <wtay> can you comment out the lines 245-264 in v4lsrc so that YUY and UYVY is not used
[16:48] <wtay> hadess: yes
[16:50] <hadess> captures rgb24, and it's all black&white and screwed, i can take a shot this time
[16:51] <wtay> ok cool
[16:52] <hadess> hadess.net/files/shots/xvideosink-pb.jpeg
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[16:57] <greg_> hello
[16:57] <wtay> hi
[17:01] <greg_> my question may sound a bit strange, but: what editor do you use to edit sgml documentation ?
[17:01] <wtay> greg_: vi
[17:02] <greg_> gotta start documenting project I am working on, been looking for suitable format AND editor. VI is NOT an option.
[17:02] <greg_> wtay: really ?
[17:02] <wtay> sure, why not?
[17:03] <greg_> wtay: haven't you seen any more userfriendly tools for it ? sth like LyX i think would be the best. It is beacuse
[17:03] <wtay> mozilla has a lot of docbook tools these days
[17:03] <greg_> I am not the person who is to write docs - would like to make it less painfull for that person.
[17:04] <greg_> you say mozilla ? you mean browser ? what exactly should i look for ?
[17:04] <wtay> sec...
[17:04] <wtay> http://www.doczilla.com/html/pressrel20010326.htm
[17:05] <greg_> looking at...
[17:10] <greg_> really nice viewer. what about editor ?
[17:11] <wtay> greg_: dunno
[17:14] <wtay> hadess: can you comment out lines 223-227 in gstv4lsrc.c like:
[17:14] <wtay> case24:
[17:14] <wtay> case32:
[17:15] <wtay> so they all use rgb32
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: error setting params
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: opening
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 32595559
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 59565955
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 32315659
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 30323449
[17:16] <hadess> v4l: capture probe yuv420p...	v4lsrc: error setting params
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 20424752
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: got depth 24, endianness 4321
[17:16] <hadess> v4l: capture probe rgb32...	v4lsrc: error setting params
[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: got format 20424752
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[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: got depth 24, endianness 4321
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[17:16] <hadess> v4lsrc: error setting params
[17:16] <wtay> ok it can't do rgb32 then...
[17:17] <hadess> nope
[17:17] <wtay> but the videosink looks like it needs 24 bpp on 32bits allignment...
[17:33] <wtay> hadess: you run 32bpp or 24bpp?
[17:33] <hadess> wtay: 24bpp
[17:52] <wtay> hadess: going to redo the xvideosink...
[17:57] <hadess> wtay: redo it ?
[17:57] <wtay> yeah, I don't like it anymore...
[17:57] <hadess> doh!
[17:58] <hadess> well, i could say i like your sense of perfection =)
[17:59] <wtay> that's the beauty of volunteered work, no pressure, just perfection... :-)
[18:04] <hadess> heh, just peer pressure i would have said =P
[18:05] <wtay> hmm yeah.. :-)
[18:05] <wtay> but no pressure to have it finished before a certain deadline...
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[19:05] <dobey> yo hadess
[19:09] <hadess> hey dobey
[19:09] <hadess> dobey: how you doing /
[19:09] <dobey> eh
[19:10] <wtay> yo
[19:10] <dobey> yo
[19:55] Nick change: hadess -> hds-town
[20:02] Nick change: wtay -> wtay-snooker
[20:20] Nick change: hds-town -> hadess
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[20:44] <ajmitch> hehe, who's awake? ;)
[20:44] <dobey> you
[20:46] <ajmitch> damn, just me?
[20:50] <ajmitch> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-multimedia&m=98605060521638&w=2
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[21:06] <chillywilly> dudes
[21:06] <ajmitch> dude, they're asleep ;)
[21:06] <dobey> oh man
[21:06] <ajmitch> i already pasted that link you saw
[21:06] <dobey> i wish voyager had access in boston
[21:06] <chillywilly> why?
[21:07] <chillywilly> it isn't that friggin' great
[21:07] <chillywilly> wtay-snooker: must be playing snooker
[21:07] <chillywilly> so
[21:07] <chillywilly> he has to be awake
[21:07] <hadess> dobey: voyager ?
[21:07] <dobey> because it would be free for me
[21:07] <chillywilly> unless he can play it in his sleep
[21:07] <hadess> hi chillywilly, ajmitch
[21:07] <chillywilly> hi
[21:08] <dobey> hadess: crappy isp that i know about 30 logins for :-)
[21:08] <hadess> dobey: heh
[21:08] <chillywilly> how do you know that?
[21:08] <chillywilly> ou worked for them?
[21:08] <chillywilly> you
[21:08] <chillywilly> btw, ajmitch are subscribed to the kde lists
[21:08] <ajmitch> hi hadess
[21:09] <dobey> the company i worked for did some work for nursing homes in ohio, they signed up EVERYONE with voyager
[21:09] <ajmitch> chillywilly: what's wrong with that?
[21:09] Action: chillywilly kicks ajmitch squarely in the ass.....welcome to KDE
[21:11] <ajmitch> chillywilly: now you are being stupid. i'm only on -core-devel, -devel, -multimedia, -i18n, -kafka
[21:11] <chillywilly> whatever :P
[21:11] <ajmitch> chillywilly: i'm also on quite a few gnome lists
[21:11] <chillywilly> I'm not, I have enough crap to read
[21:12] <chillywilly> mlug, freedev, hurd...that's enough
[21:12] <chillywilly> oh and some debian lists too
[21:12] <ajmitch> lol
[21:12] <chillywilly> oh
[21:12] <chillywilly> ajmitch: check your mail
[21:13] <ajmitch> for a message you sent to the main FD list?
[21:13] <chillywilly> nope
[21:13] <chillywilly> to Tony, Anil, Radi, Arun, me and you
[21:14] <chillywilly> er, well I didn't send ot to myself, that would be stupid
[21:15] <ajmitch> oh, ok, i suppose i can check then...
[21:15] <chillywilly> and then Tony replied back
[21:15] <chillywilly> basically
[21:15] <chillywilly> I den them our list of organizational/comunication fixes ;)
[21:15] <chillywilly> s/den/sent
[21:15] <ajmitch> it just ended up in the folder for the main list cos i have bad filtering rules ;)
[21:15] <chillywilly> ah
[21:15] <chillywilly> :P
[21:16] <chillywilly> not checking for the whole list
[21:16] <chillywilly> addy
[21:16] <ajmitch> take this conversation to it's proper place...
[21:16] <chillywilly> ok
[21:17] <chillywilly> sorry fellas
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[22:40] <chillywilly> dobey-ppc: do you own a doberman?
[22:40] <dobey-ppc> no, dogs suck
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[22:40] <chillywilly> no way
[22:41] <chillywilly> what are youa  girl?
[22:41] <chillywilly> :P
[22:41] <dobey-ppc> no, i would rather own a cheetah or something
[22:42] <chillywilly> ok
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[02:08] <zaheer> yo
[02:08] <hadess> yo zaheer
[02:09] <hadess> can i dcc you something ?
[02:09] <zaheer> just letting BBB, steveb and omega know i made it to London :)
[02:09] <zaheer> sure
[02:09] <hadess> i wanna show this to somebody =)
[02:09] Action: zaheer is about to go to sleep
[02:09] <zaheer> oh btw
[02:09] <zaheer> what was the score?
[02:09] <hadess> dunno, not checked
[02:09] <zaheer> 2-0
[02:10] <hadess> doh!
[02:11] <hadess> still 21 points on top though =)
[02:11] <zaheer> yah
[02:11] <zaheer> but we did the dbl over ya
[02:11] <hadess> 13 points over arsenal
[02:11] <zaheer> i like the screenshot
[02:11] <zaheer> arsenal arent gonna finish 2nd
[02:12] <hadess> 'course not
[02:12] <zaheer> man utd, liverpool, arsenal, leeds
[02:12] <zaheer> that will be the top 4 in that order
[02:12] Action: zaheer reminds leeds and arsenal that liverpool have 2 ganes in hand :)
[02:14] <zaheer> is this screenshot of your package?
[02:14] <hadess> the itunes clone yes
[02:14] <zaheer> it looks cool
[02:14] <hadess> the pixmaps aren't the final ones
[02:15] <zaheer> yah...
[02:15] <zaheer> i gotta go to sleep however
[02:15] Action: zaheer has a golf tournament to play in at 7:45am :)
[02:15] <zaheer> and i have been up since 4am
[02:16] <hadess> night then
[02:16] <zaheer> so i better get some sleep
[02:16] <zaheer> night, cya tomoz or mon
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[04:35] <greg_> it's 03:25 here now... gotta go sleep
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