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[07:56] <omega_> 'night...
[08:01] <taazzzz> heh.. you still awake? ;)
[08:02] <omega_> yes
[08:02] <taazzzz> only 11 there i guess...
[08:02] <omega_> ?
[08:03] <taazzzz> never mind me... i had a little too much beer... really time for the zzzs now
[08:03] <omega_> hrm, yeah
[08:04] <taazzzz> well... i'm kinda waiting for the car alarm outside my window to shut off
[08:04] <omega_> hehehe
[08:04] <omega_> 12 guage works
[08:09] <taazzzz> ok, bed time now ;)
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[13:59] <wtay> yawn
[13:59] <wtay> hi guys
[14:00] <richardb> Morning.
[14:01] <wtay> richardb: you almost finished the merge, I see...
[14:01] <richardb> Just updating the branch from head.
[14:02] <richardb> Reading the instructions in cvspolicy: I've not used branches much in the past.
[14:02] <richardb> ;-)
[14:02] <richardb> Should I go ahead and merge it into the trunk?  It all seems to work for me. :)
[14:03] <wtay> fine for me
[14:03] <richardb> Cool.  Will do then.
[14:03] <wtay> hmm, sec..
[14:03] <wtay> did you make the plugin_init method static now?
[14:04] <richardb> Yes, in all the plugins.
[14:04] <wtay> ok cool
[14:05] <richardb> Hmm.  cvspolicy says to do:
[14:05] <richardb> cvs rtag PLUGINVER1-20010422-FREEZE
[14:05] <wtay> yeah
[14:05] <richardb> Which fails with a usage message.
[14:05] <wtay> hmm
[14:05] <richardb> It requires a module parameter.
[14:06] <wtay> cvs tag BRANCH-<KEYWORD>-<DATE>-FREEZE
[14:06] <richardb> Maybe I've got an out of date cvs.  But I'm running debian/sid, so ...
[14:06] <wtay> what policy are you reading?
[14:06] <richardb> http://gstreamer.net/cvspolicy.txt
[14:06] <wtay> http://gstreamer.net/cvs.shtml
[14:07] <wtay> hmm ok
[14:08] <richardb> Ah.
[14:08] <wtay> I would be surprised if your cvs version is that old..
[14:08] <richardb> That makes more sense: those instructions don't suggest doing an rtag as well as a tag
[14:09] <wtay> but they are outdated, it says on the top of the page..
[14:09] <richardb> Hmm.  Odd.
[14:10] <wtay> anyway, I used cvs.shtml
[14:10] <richardb> I've never really understood the difference between rtag and tag, anyway.
[14:12] <wtay> man cvs doesn't really explain this either...
[14:12] <richardb> Maybe the cvs book does, or the big unsearchable pdf docs I've got.  Hmm.
[14:13] <wtay> heh
[14:23] <richardb> Merged. :)
[14:23] <wtay> cool
[14:24] <richardb> Now, I need to go to the shops and buy some file boxes.  The time has come when I need to organise my study better. :)
[14:25] <richardb> Bye...
[14:25] <wtay> cya
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[14:34] <wtay> hoi
[14:35] <steveb> dag
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[19:25] <wtay> yo
[19:26] <Gandalf_> hi
[19:26] <Gandalf_> I'm mostly here to observe the discussions :)
[19:28] <wtay> :-)
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[19:43] <wtay> wb
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[20:20] <wtay> yo hadess
[20:20] <hadess> hi gang
[20:20] <hadess> hi wtay
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[21:37] <thomas> hi
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[00:00] --- Mon Apr 23 2001
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[00:49] <omega_> yo
[00:49] <puetzk> yo
[00:49] <omega_> codecs.org/wiki/
[00:49] <hadess> hey puetzk
[00:49] <hadess> yo omega_
[00:49] <omega_> nothing there yet, will change shortly, if you have any stuff to add, plz do so
[00:54] <omega_> hadess: volunteering for an aalib output plugin?  it's easy from what I hear <g>
[00:55] <hadess> i'm _not_ crazy
[00:55] <omega_> oh?
[00:55] <omega_> sure had me fooled <g>
[00:55] Action: hadess kicks omega_
[00:55] <wtay> I have the aalib plugin nearly finished
[00:56] <omega_> oh
[00:56] Action: omega_ hides
[00:56] <hadess> lol
[00:56] <wtay> just adding some Enums :-)
[00:56] <hadess> i knew it, i knew it =)
[00:56] <omega_> what made you decide to write one just now?
[00:57] <wtay> boredom and frustration?
[00:57] <omega_> wtay: and you're going to announce it by responding to hadess's last post with 'mea culpa' ?
[00:57] <wtay> hmm?
[00:57] <hadess> omega_: or he's too ashamed to announce it =)
[00:57] <omega_> see -devel
[00:58] <omega_> hadess: point
[00:59] <wtay> hmm I can't find that mail..
[00:59] <omega_> on its way
[00:59] <wtay> oh
[00:59] <wtay> :-)
[00:59] <omega_> response to BBB
[00:59] Action: wtay works some more on his telepathic abilities..
[01:00] <wtay> hum
[01:00] <wtay> ok, I volunteer to be the crazy fool...
[01:00] <wtay> but only for today
[01:01] <omega_> lemme guess, it's my turn tomorrow. ;-(
[01:02] <wtay> hmm lemme find something suitable...
[01:02] <Gandalf_> a little question.. does gstreamer have a plugin for recieving multicast streams?
[01:02] <omega_> no
[01:02] <Gandalf_> ok
[01:03] <omega_> btw, I have libcodec yuv420->rgb5[56]5 conversion at approx 50Mpixel/sec on my PIII/500 right now
[01:03] <hadess> sweeeet
[01:03] <omega_> I think I can get it down to as low as 6-7 cycles per pixel with some more work
[01:03] <omega_> (from 10)
[01:03] <wtay> how does that compare to regular ones?
[01:04] <wtay> like the one in libmpeg2?
[01:04] <omega_> dunno
[01:07] <hadess> there's still 256megs to be won, remember ?
[01:07] <omega_> hrm, yup
[01:07] <wtay> hmm yeah
[01:07] <omega_> pc100 or pc133?
[01:07] <hadess> pc133
[01:07] <omega_> how does one test this without having some photoshop plugins?
[01:08] <hadess> test what ?
[01:08] <omega_> gforce
[01:08] <omega_> or did I miss what it was entirely?
[01:09] <hadess> what is it you understood gforce was ?
[01:10] <omega_> I thought it was a plugin loader for photoshop plugins
[01:10] <hadess> not at all
[01:10] <omega_> um, ok
[01:10] Action: omega_ shuts up
[01:11] <wtay> sorry 'bout that last commit
[01:11] <hadess> it's a vis plugin for xmms, sounjam, winamp ...
[01:11] <omega_> hrm, ok
[01:11] <omega_> wtay: ?
[01:11] <wtay> aasink
[01:11] <omega_> 'sorry' ?
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[01:15] <wtay> modify xvideosink in examples/autoplug/autoplug.c to aasink and watch an mpeg1 with aalib :-)
[01:15] <wtay> pretty cool IMO
[01:15] <omega_> does autoplug work with videos again?
[01:15] <hadess> wtay: screenshot ?
[01:15] <wtay> sec...
[01:16] <omega_> we need to commit wtay....
[01:16] <omega_> (for the record <g>)
[01:18] <wtay> ppff xv doesn't want to grab
[01:18] <taazzzz> argh... now i need a aasink debian package...
[01:18] Nick change: taazzzz -> taaz
[01:18] <wtay> heeeheeheeheheehee
[01:18] <omega_> oh, right, it's a lib isn't it
[01:18] <taaz> same with the mad one too
[01:18] <hadess> taaz: apt-get install aalib =)
[01:19] <omega_> where's the configure check for aalib?
[01:19] <wtay> sec..
[01:19] <taaz> yeah, i made a mpeg2dec aalib output plugin at one point a while ago... no one wanted to put it in cvs though
[01:20] <wtay> commited
[01:21] <omega_> taaz: I thought it was in cvs....
[01:22] <taaz> hmm... i dunno
[01:22] <wtay> hadess: I sent you a screenshot
[01:23] <wtay> aasink is not completely finished though
[01:23] <omega_> what plugins *are* completely finished???
[01:23] <hadess> it's missing the colors
[01:23] <hadess> omega_: heh
[01:24] <wtay> colors? with aalib?
[01:24] <omega_> why not?
[01:24] <omega_> ncurses does color
[01:25] <taaz> aalib doesnt do color
[01:25] <wtay> hmm, I only have a slang driver
[01:25] <omega_> slang does color too
[01:25] <wtay> aalib needs grey images IIRC
[01:25] <taaz> you can do really fast optimization with mpeg2 output... just display the Y channel
[01:26] <wtay> yup, that's what I do
[01:27] <wtay> I currently have a little scaler in it though because the real videoscaler needs more work..
[01:27] <wtay> 352x288 -> 80x25 :-)
[01:27] <omega_> eek
[01:27] <omega_> hrm, aalib should be rev'd
[01:27] <wtay> actually 160x50
[01:28] <omega_> it should do color, and it should try to make use of the character shapes to simulate higher resolution
[01:28] <wtay> true
[01:28] <taaz> aalib just came out with new version last week... after like 2 years
[01:28] Action: omega_ has aalib installed, running configure
[01:28] <omega_> er, autogen
[01:29] <wtay> you still can't run it from the console without hacks though..
[01:29] <wtay> you'll need to force the slang/stdout driver
[01:29] <wtay> oh well, enough for today, I'm going to sleep
[01:29] <wtay> cya all
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[01:37] <omega_> I go now again
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[05:33] <taaz> hey omega_ 
[05:33] <omega_> yo
[05:35] <taaz> so what kind of processing power does it take to encode tv card output?
[05:35] <omega_> to what?
[05:35] <taaz> i've been thinking of the tivo replacement software ;)
[05:35] <taaz> to whatever...
[05:35] <omega_> um
[05:35] <omega_> there are N options
[05:36] <taaz> i assume raw output would take a tad too much disk space
[05:36] <omega_> mjpeg, mpegN, dv
[05:36] <omega_> yes, raw is 19.77MB/sec
[05:36] <taaz> well, i've never used an encoder of any kind... ;)
[05:36] <omega_> actually, get a mjpeg card
[05:37] <taaz> no, i refuse to buy more hardware ;)  if my current setup can't do it then forget it...
[05:37] <omega_> miro DC10+
[05:37] <omega_> you have a bt848?
[05:38] <taaz> something like that
[05:38] <omega_> ok, then you have to capture it and encode it
[05:38] <omega_> which depending on your proc could be quite a trick
[05:38] <omega_> esp if you want to decode at the same time
[05:39] <taaz> xawtv has a "record avi" option... maybe i should see how that works...
[05:39] <omega_> ick
[05:39] <omega_> xawtv is a *mess*
[05:39] <omega_> use gstreamer
[05:39] <taaz> oh?  is there another option?
[05:39] <taaz> um... yeah, so how good is that channel switching in gstreamer?
[05:40] <omega_> I dunno, gstreamer-inspect of v4lsrc
[05:40] <omega_> problem is there's no library to handle channels across various countries, all that is deep inside xawtv
[05:40] <taaz> gstreamer is a good -framework- for these apps... it's the apps themselves
[05:40] <taaz> err... it's not the apps themselves
[05:41] <taaz> well... that's my opinion at least ;)  as the author maybe you think different 
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